Kobo Vox Android 7" Tablet advertized on Future Shop site - Page 2

The Terminator · 09-29-2011, 05:46 PM

Neat but I think it's a little late to the punch. I made a mistake with my last post

taming · 09-29-2011, 06:10 PM

Nevermind, nothing to see here anymore.

taming · 09-29-2011, 06:19 PM

Without a camera, I believe it will not come with access to the Android Market. There will be ways around it (like with the Nook Colour).

batkinson001 · 09-29-2011, 09:25 PM

sounds like a great idea.

molman · 09-30-2011, 02:23 AM

I know all this Facebook integration makes some sense (large/broad market), I just wish they would integrate with other networks like Goodreads or LibraryThing etc. which have a more focused audiences. I would say Shelfari too, but obviously that is an Amazon entity now so unlikely.

I'd also be curious what Android version this is due to be based on, and what degree of customisation we are due to expect. It is going to be interesting to see how Amzon handles the move forward with their Fire tablet version based on Gingerbread (2.3), I personally think straying less from the main tree such that Kobo can easily move to Icecream sandwich (android v3.x/4?) which is so close to release makes a tone of sense.

Benjamin Buford · 09-30-2011, 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SensualPoet

The German retail stores open on Saturday and three other European stores are slated for 2011.

Kobo never said they would open retail stores over here, and actually they are not doing that.

What they said they'd do is to sell their devices via an online retailer, one of the lesser-known ones, I'd say. They wanted to start selling on October 1, but emails people recently sent to that retailer revealed that there's a delay of about 5 to 6 weeks (see Kobo Deutschland on Facebook and the German forum over here). So it's more like mid-November.

owly · 09-30-2011, 05:14 AM

Hmm, It will interesting to see if it will be part of their Sweden launch as well.

taming · 09-30-2011, 05:49 AM

I am hoping that the details in the pulled futureshop ad are indeed incorrect. The picture looks like the Lenovo Idea Pad A-1, which does have Android Market access.

Benjamin Buford · 09-30-2011, 06:03 AM

If we assume that the pictures in the first post (from Futureshop) are not an old mock-up and indeed a picture/render of the Real Thing, and if we look at the last picture, then it's clear that the bright dot on the front is just a light, and not a camera.
And as someone else said, that would be one requirement for Android Market access, so... no.
The Lenovo IdeaPad has two cameras, front and back.

edit: The latest Compatibility Definition Document (2.3.3 Gingerbread) says that a camera is optional in general, but I could not find more specific information if and how that affects Android Market access. As far as I understand, a device without a camera but licenced for the Android Market simply won't get to see apps that require a camera, but will see everything else. Here it looks like the Android Market licence is granted individually, not automatically, and you have to apply for that license. So the question is, has the Kobo tablet good enough specs and did they apply for a license.

Conclusion: The Kobo tablet can very well have access to the Android Market despite not having a camera.

taming · 09-30-2011, 06:19 AM

There are various articles around the net right now that talk about it as if it had Market, but the specs from the FS site says no camera. One of them has to be wrong, for sure, because Android has never broken their no camera no market rule.

taming · 09-30-2011, 06:51 AM

Per Slashbox--Android rules also say that phone versions of Android (that is non-Honeycomb) have to have cellular radios, so if it is a tablet, and has market, it can't be 2.x.

Quote:

According to the product description – which may well not be final, according to some reports – the Vox will also include Android Market access. That would imply it was running Honeycomb (since it would not qualify for the Market if it ran a smartphone version of Android but lacked a cellular radio among other specs) though the dedicated buttons for back, menu and home would seem to contradict that.

I guess only time will tell...

Jedibeeftrix · 09-30-2011, 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by taming

Per Slashbox--Android rules also say that phone versions of Android (that is non-Honeycomb) have to have cellular radios, so if it is a tablet, and has market, it can't be 2.x.
I guess only time will tell...

has someone told Lenovo with their A1?

taming · 09-30-2011, 08:01 AM

Confusing, isn't it.

The Terminator · 09-30-2011, 11:20 AM

Stupid me I thought the little light on top WAS a camera

taming · 09-30-2011, 01:53 PM

I'm betting that Sameer, George and the gang at Kobo are laughing as we speculate about all of this. If it goes on sale the 17th (and who knows how true that is) I wonder when it will be officially announced?

09-29-2011, 05:46 PM	#16
The Terminator Retired Posts: 2,552 Karma: 37638420 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Vancouver Island Canada Device: Kobo Touch, Optimus One (2.3), Nexus 7 (4.2)	Neat but I think it's a little late to the punch. I made a mistake with my last post Last edited by The Terminator; 09-29-2011 at 08:21 PM. Reason: Moderated my opinion

09-29-2011, 06:10 PM	#17
taming Trying for calm & polite Posts: 4,012 Karma: 9455193 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mostly in Canada Device: kobo original, WiFI, Touch, Glo, and Aura	Nevermind, nothing to see here anymore. Last edited by taming; 09-30-2011 at 05:47 AM. Reason: I was rude to someone I consider a friend--at east in the cyber friend way

09-30-2011, 06:03 AM	#24
Benjamin Buford Nameless Being	If we assume that the pictures in the first post (from Futureshop) are not an old mock-up and indeed a picture/render of the Real Thing, and if we look at the last picture, then it's clear that the bright dot on the front is just a light, and not a camera. And as someone else said, that would be one requirement for Android Market access, so... no. The Lenovo IdeaPad has two cameras, front and back. edit: The latest Compatibility Definition Document (2.3.3 Gingerbread) says that a camera is optional in general, but I could not find more specific information if and how that affects Android Market access. As far as I understand, a device without a camera but licenced for the Android Market simply won't get to see apps that require a camera, but will see everything else. Here it looks like the Android Market licence is granted individually, not automatically, and you have to apply for that license. So the question is, has the Kobo tablet good enough specs and did they apply for a license. Conclusion: The Kobo tablet can very well have access to the Android Market despite not having a camera. Last edited by Benjamin Buford; 09-30-2011 at 06:25 AM.

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09-29-2011, 06:19 PM	#18
taming Trying for calm & polite Posts: 4,012 Karma: 9455193 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mostly in Canada Device: kobo original, WiFI, Touch, Glo, and Aura	Without a camera, I believe it will not come with access to the Android Market. There will be ways around it (like with the Nook Colour).

09-29-2011, 09:25 PM	#19
batkinson001 Kobo App user Posts: 35 Karma: 256 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Ontario, Canada Device: Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 10.1	sounds like a great idea.

09-30-2011, 02:23 AM	#20
molman Evangelist Posts: 436 Karma: 538958 Join Date: Jul 2011 Device: none	I know all this Facebook integration makes some sense (large/broad market), I just wish they would integrate with other networks like Goodreads or LibraryThing etc. which have a more focused audiences. I would say Shelfari too, but obviously that is an Amazon entity now so unlikely. I'd also be curious what Android version this is due to be based on, and what degree of customisation we are due to expect. It is going to be interesting to see how Amzon handles the move forward with their Fire tablet version based on Gingerbread (2.3), I personally think straying less from the main tree such that Kobo can easily move to Icecream sandwich (android v3.x/4?) which is so close to release makes a tone of sense.

09-30-2011, 05:14 AM	#22
owly Guru Posts: 729 Karma: 3822612 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Sweden Device: Paperwhite 2, Kobo Aura H2O	Hmm, It will interesting to see if it will be part of their Sweden launch as well.

09-30-2011, 05:49 AM	#23
taming Trying for calm & polite Posts: 4,012 Karma: 9455193 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mostly in Canada Device: kobo original, WiFI, Touch, Glo, and Aura	I am hoping that the details in the pulled futureshop ad are indeed incorrect. The picture looks like the Lenovo Idea Pad A-1, which does have Android Market access.

09-30-2011, 06:19 AM	#25
taming Trying for calm & polite Posts: 4,012 Karma: 9455193 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mostly in Canada Device: kobo original, WiFI, Touch, Glo, and Aura	There are various articles around the net right now that talk about it as if it had Market, but the specs from the FS site says no camera. One of them has to be wrong, for sure, because Android has never broken their no camera no market rule.

09-30-2011, 08:01 AM	#28
taming Trying for calm & polite Posts: 4,012 Karma: 9455193 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mostly in Canada Device: kobo original, WiFI, Touch, Glo, and Aura	Confusing, isn't it.

09-30-2011, 11:20 AM	#29
The Terminator Retired Posts: 2,552 Karma: 37638420 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Vancouver Island Canada Device: Kobo Touch, Optimus One (2.3), Nexus 7 (4.2)	Stupid me I thought the little light on top WAS a camera

09-30-2011, 01:53 PM	#30
taming Trying for calm & polite Posts: 4,012 Karma: 9455193 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mostly in Canada Device: kobo original, WiFI, Touch, Glo, and Aura	I'm betting that Sameer, George and the gang at Kobo are laughing as we speculate about all of this. If it goes on sale the 17th (and who knows how true that is) I wonder when it will be officially announced?