Possible to speed up indexing - PW2

Byjuak · 07-27-2016, 10:46 AM

I find my Kindle Paperwhite 2 somewhat slow at indexing, perhaps not any slower than others with the same model but still, it's slow. I guess minimizing index corruption or issues one could only add 1 book at a time until it's indexed then add another.

Other than that, any possible way? Is it faster if you leave the display on, if it's charging, regularly rebooting?

Cinisajoy · 07-27-2016, 10:48 AM

How many did you add at once?

Byjuak · 07-27-2016, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Cinisajoy

How many did you add at once?

I added 5 yesterday and 2 today. It still says 7 is indexing.

I find myself needing to defragment the Kindle. Is that normal? I mean, perhaps most people don't care but I find it annoying when it's fragmented 10-30% and I can feel it's extra slow. Usually disappears either by a defrag, a reboot or no books left to index.

Cinisajoy · 07-27-2016, 11:22 AM

You do not Defrag a kindle.
Must ask, where did you get these books and what format?
It sounds like one of the book files is corrupted.

Byjuak · 07-27-2016, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Cinisajoy

You do not Defrag a kindle.
Must ask, where did you get these books and what format?
It sounds like one of the book files is corrupted.

MOBI and I got them from Gutenberg. I think I'm going to delete the large ones and let the small ones finish the index then add the larger ones one at a time.

Why shouldn't one defrag a kindle?

Sirtel · 07-27-2016, 11:30 AM

Indexing is faster if you leave the Kindle plugged in. Otherwise it's pretty slow. I've noticed it often takes several days to index all the newly added books, if I leave it unplugged.

Byjuak · 07-27-2016, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Sirtel

Indexing is faster if you leave the Kindle plugged in. Otherwise it's pretty slow. I've noticed it often takes several days to index all the newly added books, if I leave it unplugged.

Really? To a computer or through a charger or doesn't it matter?

eschwartz · 07-27-2016, 11:47 AM

To a charger.

Connecting to a computer will try to form a data connection, which interferes with properly charging.

Byjuak · 07-27-2016, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by eschwartz

To a charger.

Connecting to a computer will try to form a data connection, which interferes with properly charging.

Thanks, good to know. I rebooted it then plugged it but then I noticed it jumped down to 6 almost immediately then 20 minutes later it's down 2, it might have gotten stuck somehow.

93terp · 07-27-2016, 11:55 AM

Also try a restart. I just did that recently and the indexing process was orders of magnitude faster after the restart.

ElspethB · 07-27-2016, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by eschwartz

To a charger.

Connecting to a computer will try to form a data connection, which interferes with properly charging.

Well, you can eject the Kindle while still leaving it connected to the computer. I sideload all my books from Calibre, then eject the Kindle from Calibre while still leaving it connected via USB so it can finish indexing and charge at the same time. Granted, I usually never load more than 4 or 5 books at a time, but it doesn't take very long to finish the indexing. Then I generally leave it plugged in till its fully charged.

Sirtel · 07-27-2016, 09:11 PM

I've sometimes loaded several hundred books in one session (mostly after I've gotten a new Kindle). If I leave the Kindle plugged in for the night (usually to a charger, sometimes to the laptop), it indexes a lot faster. Unplugged, indexing so many books can take a week. I don't remember anything being stuck indexing indefinitely, ever. All my Kindles have always managed to finish indexing at some point, sooner or later. You just have to be patient.

NullNix · 07-28-2016, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Sirtel

I've sometimes loaded several hundred books in one session (mostly after I've gotten a new Kindle). If I leave the Kindle plugged in for the night (usually to a charger, sometimes to the laptop), it indexes a lot faster. Unplugged, indexing so many books can take a week. I don't remember anything being stuck indexing indefinitely, ever. All my Kindles have always managed to finish indexing at some point, sooner or later. You just have to be patient.

Yeah, on firmware 5.6.x and lower (at least) the indexer is viciously down-prioritized while running on battery and can take hours to do a few books. (This may still be true for 5.7.x+, but it's so damn fast there that I can't tell: I've dumped 20MiB mobis onto my 5.8.x Oasis before now and had them indexed in five minutes on battery.)

Byjuak · 07-28-2016, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Sirtel

I've sometimes loaded several hundred books in one session (mostly after I've gotten a new Kindle). If I leave the Kindle plugged in for the night (usually to a charger, sometimes to the laptop), it indexes a lot faster. Unplugged, indexing so many books can take a week. I don't remember anything being stuck indexing indefinitely, ever. All my Kindles have always managed to finish indexing at some point, sooner or later. You just have to be patient.

Several hundred?! I once tried to load a large PDF, perhaps 20MB+ and after a few minutes, the Kindle forced a reboot..ever since then I avoid PDFs. Granted, I neither charged it nor did I leave it over night, next time I load a larger book I'll try that, very good idea.

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Originally Posted by NullNix

Yeah, on firmware 5.6.x and lower (at least) the indexer is viciously down-prioritized while running on battery and can take hours to do a few books. (This may still be true for 5.7.x+, but it's so damn fast there that I can't tell: I've dumped 20MiB mobis onto my 5.8.x Oasis before now and had them indexed in five minutes on battery.)

Oasis is a newer model, doesn't it have a faster CPU or drive than the older Paperwhite versions? Anyway, it makes sense that I always thought indexing was slow as I've almost never put into a charger for the sake of indexing.

NullNix · 07-28-2016, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Byjuak

Oasis is a newer model, doesn't it have a faster CPU or drive than the older Paperwhite versions? Anyway, it makes sense that I always thought indexing was slow as I've almost never put into a charger for the sake of indexing.

It's probably a combination of the faster CPU, the doubling of RAM, and most of all the rewritten indexer in these later firmware versions. My PW1 is still notably slow at indexing, but far faster than it used to be when it was running 5.4.4 rather than 5.6.1.1.

07-27-2016, 10:46 AM	#1
Byjuak Member Posts: 17 Karma: 350010 Join Date: Jun 2014 Device: Kindle Paperwhite 4	Possible to speed up indexing - PW2 I find my Kindle Paperwhite 2 somewhat slow at indexing, perhaps not any slower than others with the same model but still, it's slow. I guess minimizing index corruption or issues one could only add 1 book at a time until it's indexed then add another. Other than that, any possible way? Is it faster if you leave the display on, if it's charging, regularly rebooting?

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07-27-2016, 10:48 AM	#2
Cinisajoy Just a Yellow Smiley. Posts: 19,161 Karma: 83862859 Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Texas Device: K4, K5, fire, kobo, galaxy	How many did you add at once?

07-27-2016, 11:22 AM	#4
Cinisajoy Just a Yellow Smiley. Posts: 19,161 Karma: 83862859 Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Texas Device: K4, K5, fire, kobo, galaxy	You do not Defrag a kindle. Must ask, where did you get these books and what format? It sounds like one of the book files is corrupted.

07-27-2016, 11:30 AM	#6
Sirtel Grand Sorcerer Posts: 10,073 Karma: 224450762 Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Estonia Device: Kobo Sage & Libra 2	Indexing is faster if you leave the Kindle plugged in. Otherwise it's pretty slow. I've noticed it often takes several days to index all the newly added books, if I leave it unplugged.

07-27-2016, 11:47 AM	#8
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,422 Karma: 85397180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	To a charger. Connecting to a computer will try to form a data connection, which interferes with properly charging.

07-27-2016, 11:55 AM	#10
93terp Fear The Turtle! Posts: 866 Karma: 4035032 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Margaritaville Device: KV, Kobo Forma, Kobo A1LE, KO3, K3	Also try a restart. I just did that recently and the indexing process was orders of magnitude faster after the restart.

07-27-2016, 09:11 PM	#12
Sirtel Grand Sorcerer Posts: 10,073 Karma: 224450762 Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Estonia Device: Kobo Sage & Libra 2	I've sometimes loaded several hundred books in one session (mostly after I've gotten a new Kindle). If I leave the Kindle plugged in for the night (usually to a charger, sometimes to the laptop), it indexes a lot faster. Unplugged, indexing so many books can take a week. I don't remember anything being stuck indexing indefinitely, ever. All my Kindles have always managed to finish indexing at some point, sooner or later. You just have to be patient.

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