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Old 11-28-2022, 02:26 PM   #211
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That is the text annotation interface long supported by Kindle apps and devices. The keyboard pops up on the bottom so that you can type a note.

What Amazon is calling sticky notes are hand drawn images. Are you saying that with a stylus you can draw a picture that will save as a note in the app?
You write text with your stylus. I suppose you can use the keyboard. With stylus it converts your handwriting to text. I have not tried to draw just write.

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Old 11-28-2022, 02:49 PM   #212
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The Kindle Scribe 5.16.1 firmware is now available for download

https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/custo...MQC26VQQMM8XSW

Whoever wants to anaylyze it
Don't update to it just yet, I guess?

Code:
diff -Nuarp KT5/ROOT/etc/upstart/lab126_gui_monitor.conf KS_5.16.1/ROOT/etc/upstart/lab126_gui_monitor.conf
 --- KT5/ROOT/etc/upstart/lab126_gui_monitor.conf>-------2022-09-21 18:56:02.000000000 +0200
 +++ KS_5.16.1/ROOT/etc/upstart/lab126_gui_monitor.conf>-2022-10-28 04:54:55.000000000 +0200
 @@ -19,7 +19,7 @@ script
 .               
-     lab126_gui_status=$(f_upstart_job_status lab126_gui)
 .               
 -    if [ "kb" == ${JOB} ] && [ "$lab126_gui_status" -ne "$UP_JOB_STS_RUNNING" ]; then
 +    if [ "kb" == ${JOB} && [ "$lab126_gui_status" -ne "$UP_JOB_STS_RUNNING" ]; then
-         f_log I $UPSTART_JOB "Keyboard has failed, but lab126_gui has not started. Hence exiting.."
2         # lab126_gui will bring up keyboard again when it starts. 
2         exit 0
(Random syntax error)
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Old 11-28-2022, 03:12 PM   #213
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As expected, it's a Wacom EMR pen, so I seriously doubt the aforementioned lack of pressure handling mentions (in fact, I've seen code for it).
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Old 11-28-2022, 04:27 PM   #214
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Old 11-28-2022, 05:20 PM   #215
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As expected, it's a Wacom EMR pen, so I seriously doubt the aforementioned lack of pressure handling mentions (in fact, I've seen code for it).
This is good news. Didn’t make a whole lot of sense not to have pressure detection - but strange how it was mentioned specifically.
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Old 11-28-2022, 10:40 PM   #216
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The lack of pressure sensitivity was specifically mentioned as one of the ways the device was made thinner --- it would make sense for code to be present for that from a previous test version before that decision was made.

Ah well, we should know day after tomorrow.
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Old 11-29-2022, 12:31 AM   #217
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At least one prototype iteration was using an older 227dpi panel, so, who knows. Strange, though.
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Old 11-29-2022, 08:14 AM   #218
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Don't update to it just yet, I guess?

Code:
diff -Nuarp KT5/ROOT/etc/upstart/lab126_gui_monitor.conf KS_5.16.1/ROOT/etc/upstart/lab126_gui_monitor.conf
 --- KT5/ROOT/etc/upstart/lab126_gui_monitor.conf>-------2022-09-21 18:56:02.000000000 +0200
 +++ KS_5.16.1/ROOT/etc/upstart/lab126_gui_monitor.conf>-2022-10-28 04:54:55.000000000 +0200
 @@ -19,7 +19,7 @@ script
 .               
-     lab126_gui_status=$(f_upstart_job_status lab126_gui)
 .               
 -    if [ "kb" == ${JOB} ] && [ "$lab126_gui_status" -ne "$UP_JOB_STS_RUNNING" ]; then
 +    if [ "kb" == ${JOB} && [ "$lab126_gui_status" -ne "$UP_JOB_STS_RUNNING" ]; then
-         f_log I $UPSTART_JOB "Keyboard has failed, but lab126_gui has not started. Hence exiting.."
2         # lab126_gui will bring up keyboard again when it starts. 
2         exit 0
(Random syntax error)
Not only that -- the line that actually sets lab126_gui_status was removed, so even if the test was syntactically correct it wouldn't really help... Now maybe something else sets it earlier but I kinda doubt it.
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Old 11-29-2022, 09:54 AM   #219
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The lack of pressure sensitivity was specifically mentioned as one of the ways the device was made thinner
That makes no sense as the pressure sensing ought to be in the pen/stylus with any active digitiser system. It would only affect thickness very slightly even to have system that used a dumb stick stylus like on Nintendo DS or old Palm PDAs or similar.
Both old Bamboo and earlier serial tablet Wacom and current Wacom EMR are pressure sensitive via the pen. I have three Wacom: A USB Bamboo, Lenovo X201 with finger touch and Wacom pen and the reMarkable using Wacom EMR. All are pressure sensitive via the pen.

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That makes no sense as the pressure sensing ought to be in the pen/stylus with any active digitiser system. It would only affect thickness very slightly even to have system that used a dumb stick stylus like on Nintendo DS or old Palm PDAs or similar.
Both old Bamboo and earlier serial tablet Wacom and current Wacom EMR are pressure sensitive via the pen. I have three Wacom: A USB Bamboo, Lenovo X201 with finger touch and Wacom pen and the reMarkable using Wacom EMR. All are pressure sensitive via the pen.
I believe you still need some circuitry in the machine to receive the pressure information from the pen.

Don't know if it's actually related to the device thickness though.
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I believe you still need some circuitry in the machine to receive the pressure information from the pen.

Don't know if it's actually related to the device thickness though.
It has no effect on thickness.
I never heard of a digitizer that works with a pressure sensitive pen that doesn't use the pressure. An application might not use the data, but the chip that receives the data will get all the data.
There are (or were 25 years ago) digitizers that only had binary on/off on "pressure" to simulate mouse left click. Very cheap and usually cabled. No-one is going to put that on a tablet.
It's definitely a Wacom EMR, so there is pressure info on the internal chip, though it's possible the application only uses an on/off threshold for display on screen.
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