Non Kindle ebook

GKj · 12-23-2012, 05:42 AM

I've purchased an eBook with Amazon and it was delivered to something they call "Cloud Reader". I would like to transfer and read this book on my eBook device (as whatever Epub, pdf or other format) but i can't find this file I bought.
Any ideas?
GKj

HarryT · 12-23-2012, 05:53 AM

This is scarcely "News", so I'm rather mystified why you thought it would be a good idea to post it in the News forum. Moved to the Kindle forum.

Dave_S · 12-23-2012, 06:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GKj

Any ideas?
GKj

!. Yes, next time think about what you are doing when you purchase a book.

2. You can read the book on your web browser using the online Cloud Reader app.

3. You can download the book to your Kindle for PC program, and it will then be on your own computer.

4. If the book is not encrypted with DRM you can use Calibre to convert it to whatever format your reading device needs.

5. If the book is encrypted with DRM you will have to learn how to decrypt the book or go back to items 1-3.

Mike L · 12-23-2012, 11:12 AM

1. Go to the Amazon site, and log in with your account credentials.

2. Follow the links to the "Manage Your Kindle" area.

3. You should see a list of the books you've purchased. At the right-hand end of each item, click the Actions button, then select "Deliver to my ...".

3. In the pop-up window, select the device that you wish to use to read the book (such as a physical Kindle); or, select the option to download to the PC for transfer via USB.

4. If you choose the USB option, refer to the instructions in the Kindle manual for copying the book from your computer to the device. You would normally only need to do this if the device cannot connect to Amazon for any reason.

If you want to convert the book to a different format (you mentioned ePub), you will have to remove the DRM (if any). I understand that it's against forum policy to give advice on this point, but no doubt a bit of research will get you the answer.

Mike

GKj · 12-28-2012, 06:28 AM

Thanks Mike for your detailed comment. I did try downloading it the way you suggested before posting here but there was no "transfer via USB" option there.
Any way, I've returned the book to amazon and am looking for it in other more friendly stores.

DiapDealer · 12-28-2012, 06:54 AM

Some books are only available for the Cloud Reader. But even if you "downloaded" it for offline reading... there is no "file" you could copy to another device (even if it were drm-free). Offline Cloud Reader books are all part of an encrypted sqlite database on your computer.

Returning it was probably your best option. I don't buy ebooks that aren't offered in a common, easily-manipulateable format.

Always know what you're buying beforehand.

HarryT · 12-28-2012, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GKj

Thanks Mike for your detailed comment. I did try downloading it the way you suggested before posting here but there was no "transfer via USB" option there.
Any way, I've returned the book to amazon and am looking for it in other more friendly stores.

There will only be a "Transfer via USB" if you have a physical device registered to transfer it to.

HarryT · 12-28-2012, 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

Returning it was probably your best option. I don't buy ebooks that aren't offered in a common, easily-manipulateable format.

An alternative would have been to install "Kindle for PC", download it there, copy to Calibre, and convert to ePub.

DiapDealer · 12-28-2012, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

An alternative would have been to install "Kindle for PC", download it there, copy to Calibre, and convert to ePub.

If it's available, yes. But as I mentioned above, I've seen some ebooks that are not available for the kindle apps. And if you have no compatible device... then the only available option is the Cloud Reader (or an alternate bookstore). It seemed to me that that was the situation the OP was in.

HarryT · 12-28-2012, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

If it's available, yes. But as I mentioned above, I've seen some ebooks that are not available for the kindle apps. And if you have no compatible device... then the only available option is the Cloud Reader (or an alternate bookstore). It seemed to me that that was the situation the OP was in.

No, I think that the reason the OP had it delivered to the Cloud Reader is simply that he or she didn't have any Kindle device or app registered, so the Cloud Reader was all that was available to send it to.

DiapDealer · 12-28-2012, 12:01 PM

Could be I misinterpreted. Either way, I stand by my assertion that there are kindle books out there that are _only_ available via Cloud Reader. They simply can't be downloaded to the kindle app. In which case, it's just not possible to format shift them (by all the usual methods, anyway).

HarryT · 12-28-2012, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

Could be I misinterpreted. Either way, I stand by my assertion that there are kindle books out there that are _only_ available via Cloud Reader. They simply can't be downloaded to the kindle app. In which case, it's just not possible to format shift them (by all the usual methods, anyway).

Yes, I'm not disagreeing with you about that

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DiapDealer · 12-28-2012, 12:17 PM

I see. Well who wants to disagree with me then?

shalym · 12-28-2012, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

Could be I misinterpreted. Either way, I stand by my assertion that there are kindle books out there that are _only_ available via Cloud Reader. They simply can't be downloaded to the kindle app. In which case, it's just not possible to format shift them (by all the usual methods, anyway).

Wait...there are e-books for sale on Amazon that can't even be downloaded to a physical Kindle device? I knew that there were some that couldn't be downloaded to the apps, but they can't even be downloaded to a device??

Shari

HarryT · 12-28-2012, 02:49 PM

There are books (with "enhanced content") that can only be used on the tablet apps (iOS, Android). I haven't personally encountered any which are only for the Cloud Reader; perhaps DD could give us an example?

12-23-2012, 05:42 AM	#1
GKj Member Posts: 10 Karma: 10 Join Date: Dec 2012 Device: Onix I62HD	Non Kindle ebook I've purchased an eBook with Amazon and it was delivered to something they call "Cloud Reader". I would like to transfer and read this book on my eBook device (as whatever Epub, pdf or other format) but i can't find this file I bought. Any ideas? GKj

12-28-2012, 06:54 AM	#6
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 27,532 Karma: 193191846 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	Some books are only available for the Cloud Reader. But even if you "downloaded" it for offline reading... there is no "file" you could copy to another device (even if it were drm-free). Offline Cloud Reader books are all part of an encrypted sqlite database on your computer. Returning it was probably your best option. I don't buy ebooks that aren't offered in a common, easily-manipulateable format. Always know what you're buying beforehand. Last edited by DiapDealer; 12-28-2012 at 06:57 AM.

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12-23-2012, 05:53 AM	#2
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	This is scarcely "News", so I'm rather mystified why you thought it would be a good idea to post it in the News forum. Moved to the Kindle forum.

12-23-2012, 11:12 AM	#4
Mike L Wizard Posts: 1,479 Karma: 3846231 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland Device: Kindle 3, Samsung Galaxy	1. Go to the Amazon site, and log in with your account credentials. 2. Follow the links to the "Manage Your Kindle" area. 3. You should see a list of the books you've purchased. At the right-hand end of each item, click the Actions button, then select "Deliver to my ...". 3. In the pop-up window, select the device that you wish to use to read the book (such as a physical Kindle); or, select the option to download to the PC for transfer via USB. 4. If you choose the USB option, refer to the instructions in the Kindle manual for copying the book from your computer to the device. You would normally only need to do this if the device cannot connect to Amazon for any reason. If you want to convert the book to a different format (you mentioned ePub), you will have to remove the DRM (if any). I understand that it's against forum policy to give advice on this point, but no doubt a bit of research will get you the answer. Mike

12-28-2012, 06:28 AM	#5
GKj Member Posts: 10 Karma: 10 Join Date: Dec 2012 Device: Onix I62HD	Thanks Mike for your detailed comment. I did try downloading it the way you suggested before posting here but there was no "transfer via USB" option there. Any way, I've returned the book to amazon and am looking for it in other more friendly stores.

12-28-2012, 12:01 PM	#11
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 27,532 Karma: 193191846 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	Could be I misinterpreted. Either way, I stand by my assertion that there are kindle books out there that are _only_ available via Cloud Reader. They simply can't be downloaded to the kindle app. In which case, it's just not possible to format shift them (by all the usual methods, anyway).

12-28-2012, 12:17 PM	#13
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 27,532 Karma: 193191846 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	I see. Well who wants to disagree with me then?

12-28-2012, 02:49 PM	#15
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	There are books (with "enhanced content") that can only be used on the tablet apps (iOS, Android). I haven't personally encountered any which are only for the Cloud Reader; perhaps DD could give us an example?

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