FIRE vs TABLET - Page 2

SCION · 10-12-2011, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kennyc

All depends on your needs. The Fire is NOT a generic Android tablet. It is limited in functionality but should make a wonderful media consumption device - books, video, music particularly if you use and want what Amazon offers.

I agree, seems like a nice complement to a 10 inch (or 9.4

) tablet.

frahse · 10-12-2011, 09:50 PM

There is also the Velocity Micro Cruz T408 8" 2.3 for $199.

Leep · 10-13-2011, 12:00 AM

I think if you look at the specs for the Kindle Fire and the Lenovo Ideapad, you will see that they are almost identical except for the storage card. (and, of course, Amazon's promised 'cloud' content and silk connection when we figure out what it really is).

At this point, I'm starting to lean toward the Lenovo because of the open App marketplace vs. Amazon App store.

cheers

frahse · 10-13-2011, 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leep

I think if you look at the specs for the Kindle Fire and the Lenovo Ideapad, you will see that they are almost identical except for the storage card. (and, of course, Amazon's promised 'cloud' content and silk connection when we figure out what it really is).

At this point, I'm starting to lean toward the Lenovo because of the open App marketplace vs. Amazon App store.

cheers

I think you are right on the major components. The Lenovo has many minor items that the Fire doesn't have and these add up to be a major factor.

GPS is one of the biggest.
The A1 has a microphone. I don't think that the Fire does.
The two cameras.
USB2 OTG
Bluetooth
It comes as basically an Open system.
Android and Lenovo Markets.

I would also like to restate something.
The Jeff Bezos Amazon cloud for storage is fine to a point, but any cloud needs connectivity which for the Fire and the Lenovo means WiFi.
The Lenovo may have up to 32GB internal storage. Numbers mentioned have been 2GB(for 199USD), 8GB, 16GB (for 250USD) and 32GB for 300USD) We don't know what the offer will be on Amazon when it gets over there.
The Kindle Fire has 6GB of 8GB available for the user and then you go to the cloud.
The Lenovo can use an external memory card up to 32GB.
These cards are actually a lot cheaper than buying internal memory for the Lenovo. You can have multiple cards.
The USB2 allow you to hook up to an external drive. A little one costs say 100USD and has 1TB.

The Fire lacks many things, and some of those aren't so important, but memory is.

SCION · 10-13-2011, 09:20 AM

With current pricing of 7 inch tablets I wouldn't recommend the Fire to someone who doesn't already own a descent capacitive screen Android tablet. If you're looking for a first time tablet purchase don't get the Fire. It seems folks without any tablet experience are disappointed with what the Fire offers. Those who have tablet experience are not surprised.

People like kennyc and myself are getting the Fire as a complement to our Android tablet. Others are attracted to the Amazon ecosystem and don't care about it not being "open". Many are getting it for their children. There's a vast market for this device.

beckywc · 10-13-2011, 10:28 AM

I don't currently own a tablet, but I still understand what I'm getting. I'm getting it to stream and watch video's, play some games, and surf the web. I probably won't access my email, I have that on my phone.

I'm not getting it for an ereader, I'm keeping my k3 for that.

So for me it's media consumption all the way. I've already purchased 20gb and have up loaded my favorite movies, instructional videos, view only documents, and my collection of 2d artist pdf magazines.

I'm good to go. You know I think Amazon knows what its doing. I just might buy more.

Question:

I have a live drive account can I use the Fire to access my files and pictures I have through the web browser? I can access it with my iphone but I have a portal through the live drive app that's available through itunes.

I believe LiveDrive is kinda like dropbox.

wyndslash · 10-13-2011, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCION

With current pricing of 7 inch tablets I wouldn't recommend the Fire to someone who doesn't already own a descent capacitive screen Android tablet. If you're looking for a first time tablet purchase don't get the Fire. It seems folks without any tablet experience are disappointed with what the Fire offers. Those who have tablet experience are not surprised.

People like kennyc and myself are getting the Fire as a complement to our Android tablet. Others are attracted to the Amazon ecosystem and don't care about it not being "open". Many are getting it for their children. There's a vast market for this device.

just found out that digital subscriptions on amazon aren't available internationally yet

guess i'll have to wait, and even then i think it would be much more expensive

Blossom · 10-13-2011, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frahse

There is also the Velocity Micro Cruz T408 8" 2.3 for $199.

Oh that is nice!

Barbara1955 · 10-13-2011, 02:11 PM

I want something to replace my laptop. And after the mess I going thru putting my 515 ebooks Back on the Kindle 3 would Love something I can Store ALL my ebooks on & when I want to read an ebook I can! So I guessing Fire Not going to do that ugh [no sd slot]

=X= · 10-13-2011, 05:43 PM

Here is another tablet.

AirPad 7" @ $200

When it first was announced I thought it was a good deal.

For me the screen is a big deal, though this screen is not bad the Nook/A1/Fire still is better.

However if ports are your thing this thing has them all micorSD, HTMI, miniUSB, USB HUB!, Bluetooth.

With this device you can attach your phone and charge it. Even use your phone as a 3G hot spot.

kennyc · 10-13-2011, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Katie1

I want something to replace my laptop. And after the mess I going thru putting my 515 ebooks Back on the Kindle 3 would Love something I can Store ALL my ebooks on & when I want to read an ebook I can! So I guessing Fire Not going to do that ugh [no sd slot]

It may be hard replacing a laptop with a tablet, depending on what you use the laptop for. If it is just email, facebook, web browsing, ebooks, mp3s then a tablet might work for you, but if it's software development, spreadsheets, book writing, etc. it may not serve your needs.

CazMar · 10-13-2011, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frahse

I think you are right on the major components. The Lenovo has many minor items that the Fire doesn't have and these add up to be a major factor.

GPS is one of the biggest.
The A1 has a microphone. I don't think that the Fire does.
The two cameras.
USB2 OTG
Bluetooth
It comes as basically an Open system.
Android and Lenovo Markets.

.......

The Fire lacks many things, and some of those aren't so important, but memory is.

Thanks for this info Frahse, I am now looking at the Lenovo as a serious option. I didn't realise it had so many good features.

carld · 10-13-2011, 07:32 PM

I can't help but wonder who all these people are who are already dissapointed in the Kindle Fire, considering no one outside of a very select circle has even touched one yet. I say wait until the Fire is released and we actually know what's what.

We really don't know if it will allow access to the regular android market and apps, and I think it's premature to make claims about what it will or won't do.

gweminence · 10-13-2011, 08:53 PM

And I hate to tell you, but lenovo seems to have pulled the a1 from their site. You can still get a k1 with all those features, though...for twice the price.

kennyc · 10-13-2011, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gweminence

And I hate to tell you, but lenovo seems to have pulled the a1 from their site. You can still get a k1 with all those features, though...for twice the price.

Uh, no.
http://www.lenovo.com/products/us/tablet/

10-13-2011, 10:28 AM	#21
beckywc Addict Posts: 272 Karma: 1050426 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: California Device: iPad Mini w/Retina, Kindle 3, Kindle Fire HDX 8.9, & Asus Transformer	I don't currently own a tablet, but I still understand what I'm getting. I'm getting it to stream and watch video's, play some games, and surf the web. I probably won't access my email, I have that on my phone. I'm not getting it for an ereader, I'm keeping my k3 for that. So for me it's media consumption all the way. I've already purchased 20gb and have up loaded my favorite movies, instructional videos, view only documents, and my collection of 2d artist pdf magazines. I'm good to go. You know I think Amazon knows what its doing. I just might buy more. Question: I have a live drive account can I use the Fire to access my files and pictures I have through the web browser? I can access it with my iphone but I have a portal through the live drive app that's available through itunes. I believe LiveDrive is kinda like dropbox. Last edited by beckywc; 10-13-2011 at 10:31 AM.

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frahse occasional author Posts: 2,314 Karma: 2064403292 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Wandering God's glorious hills, valleys and plains. Device: A Franklin BI (before Internet) was the first. I still have it.	There is also the Velocity Micro Cruz T408 8" 2.3 for $199.

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Leep Guru Posts: 739 Karma: 1018859 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Near Seattle Device: kindle1, K3, K3G (thanks MR), iTouch, Kindle Touch	I think if you look at the specs for the Kindle Fire and the Lenovo Ideapad, you will see that they are almost identical except for the storage card. (and, of course, Amazon's promised 'cloud' content and silk connection when we figure out what it really is). At this point, I'm starting to lean toward the Lenovo because of the open App marketplace vs. Amazon App store. cheers

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=X= Wizard Posts: 3,671 Karma: 12205348 Join Date: Mar 2008 Device: Galaxy S, Nook w/CM7	Here is another tablet. AirPad 7" @ $200 When it first was announced I thought it was a good deal. For me the screen is a big deal, though this screen is not bad the Nook/A1/Fire still is better. However if ports are your thing this thing has them all micorSD, HTMI, miniUSB, USB HUB!, Bluetooth. With this device you can attach your phone and charge it. Even use your phone as a 3G hot spot.

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gweminence Fat Guy Posts: 408 Karma: 24165 Join Date: Jun 2010 Device: Kindle Voyage	And I hate to tell you, but lenovo seems to have pulled the a1 from their site. You can still get a k1 with all those features, though...for twice the price.

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