iPad iPad & Comics - Page 6

Fotoman · 05-10-2010, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Kirtai

Is it wrong of me to be amused at seeing this argument again when the original subject was comics which are usually colour graphics?

Let's face it, even if eInk was the best ever possible display for text, if you need to display colour today, it's not even a contender.

I share your amusement.

I came to this thread honestly back on page 1 when the discussion was about which apps are best for this purpose.

Any talk of the iPad seems to attract visitors from other forums who like to invent ridiculous anti-LCD arguments and call others "fanboys" when their idiocy is pointed out to them.

I do have to wonder what attracted the e-ink evangelists to a thread about comics...color envy?

scottjl · 05-10-2010, 06:53 PM

what's that saying about the grass being greener on LCD?

Sonist · 05-10-2010, 07:23 PM

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Sonist · 05-10-2010, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by athlonkmf

There's nothing more open than a zipped folder with images in it. Pretty sure it's possible to read those a few centuries from now.

I was referring to legit stuff purchased from iBooks, or from vendors like Marvel (see this review here: http://www.boingboing.net/2010/04/01...cs-for-ip.html)

Crowl · 05-10-2010, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Fotoman

I do have to wonder what attracted the e-ink evangelists to a thread about comics...color envy?

The fanboys and anti-fanboys are just as bad as each other and it is just a shame they can't take their argument to any one of the multiple ebook topics and leave this one to comics like the topic title states.

murraypaul · 05-10-2010, 09:11 PM

To briefly mention the subject of the thread

Had my first chance to get my hands on an iPad this evening.
I emailed myself some pdfs of small extracts from a couple of magazines and a couple of comics to try out on the screen.
Really was better than could have expected, the comics were perfectly readable (as single pages, not double spread), and really looked good. This could be for comics what my eBook reader is for normal books for me.
For eBooks, I was slightly disappointed. I like reading with small fonts, and I did find that the reduced DPI vs my PRS-505 showed, the smallest font sizes (in iBooks) did become a bit blocky. Setting both to an equivalent small sized font, I think the PRS-505 would look better, however, I think that scaling the fonts to give the same text shown across the width of the screen in both, the iPad would look better.

Kirtai · 05-11-2010, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Sonist

I was referring to legit stuff purchased from iBooks, or from vendors like Marvel (see this review here: http://www.boingboing.net/2010/04/01...cs-for-ip.html)

You can get comics legally as scans. Antarctic Press sell the Gold Digger comics up to the end of colour volume 2 (including all specials, mini series and crossovers up to then) on DVD in jpeg and pdf form.

WillAdams · 05-11-2010, 12:37 PM

Other sources for comics (and comic-like materials):

http://www.wowio.com/

http://comics.drivethrustuff.com/

http://www.diesel-ebooks.com/cgi-bin...ls-ebooks.html

William

joblack · 05-11-2010, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by scottjl

just so you know, most scientific research regarding health-related issues usually includes a test group (subjects using the new style, say LCD screens in this test) and a control group (subjects using the existing style, say eInk screens in this test).

You concluded LCD and eInk has the same reading quality. As the technology is different you have to proof that the (reading) results are the same.

A comparison between lcd and eink displays in reading quality is like comparing VHS with BluRay technology. I haven't seen any scientific proof that Blu Ray has a better quality - it speaks for itself.

scottjl · 05-11-2010, 04:27 PM

well. that's exactly what a research test would show or disprove wouldn't it? that lcd and eink have the same, or different reading qualities.

still doesn't change the fact that your reference was really nothing more than a fluff piece which lacked any sort of testing at all.

joblack · 05-12-2010, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by scottjl

well. that's exactly what a research test would show or disprove wouldn't it? that lcd and eink have the same, or different reading qualities.

still doesn't change the fact that your reference was really nothing more than a fluff piece which lacked any sort of testing at all.

A pharmaceutic company has to proof that their pills have the same effect so you implied that lcd and eink have the same quality so you have to proof that.

You doesn't seem to get the idea of a proof.

At least I brought a PhD. paper from an university - there is nothing from your side.

scottjl · 05-12-2010, 10:12 AM

lol. you brought a paper that isn't much better than marketing material from eink manufactures, who probably commissioned the "study" to begin with. next you'll be quoting the national enquirer? you've dragged this thread off-topic enough. enjoy your b/w eink and your "proof". i'm not here to teach you proper research methods.

joblack · 05-12-2010, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by scottjl

lol. you brought a paper that isn't much better than marketing material from eink manufactures, who probably commissioned the "study" to begin with. next you'll be quoting the national enquirer? you've dragged this thread off-topic enough. enjoy your b/w eink and your "proof". i'm not here to teach you proper research methods.

I doubt you know how to proof anything in a scientific way. No proof or even facts whatsoever from you - I can't take you seriously.

Play with your 'superb' lcd display

Crowl · 05-12-2010, 05:43 PM

Mods, is there any chance of changing the title of this thread so people won't mistakenly expect to find stuff about comics on the ipad in here when actually it is now a tired old e-ink vs lcd argument that might be relevant to ebooks, but has nothing at all to do with comics since the vast majority of them need a colour screen.

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05-10-2010, 06:53 PM	#77
scottjl Reader of Books Posts: 1,632 Karma: 2697 Join Date: Oct 2009 Device: none	what's that saying about the grass being greener on LCD?

05-10-2010, 09:11 PM	#81
murraypaul Interested Bystander Posts: 3,725 Karma: 19728152 Join Date: Jun 2008 Device: Note 4, Kobo One	To briefly mention the subject of the thread Had my first chance to get my hands on an iPad this evening. I emailed myself some pdfs of small extracts from a couple of magazines and a couple of comics to try out on the screen. Really was better than could have expected, the comics were perfectly readable (as single pages, not double spread), and really looked good. This could be for comics what my eBook reader is for normal books for me. For eBooks, I was slightly disappointed. I like reading with small fonts, and I did find that the reduced DPI vs my PRS-505 showed, the smallest font sizes (in iBooks) did become a bit blocky. Setting both to an equivalent small sized font, I think the PRS-505 would look better, however, I think that scaling the fonts to give the same text shown across the width of the screen in both, the iPad would look better.

05-11-2010, 12:37 PM	#83
WillAdams Wizard Posts: 1,234 Karma: 3350652 Join Date: Feb 2008 Device: Amazon Kindle Paperwhite (300ppi), Samsung Galaxy Book 12	Other sources for comics (and comic-like materials): http://www.wowio.com/ http://comics.drivethrustuff.com/ http://www.diesel-ebooks.com/cgi-bin...ls-ebooks.html William

05-11-2010, 04:27 PM	#85
scottjl Reader of Books Posts: 1,632 Karma: 2697 Join Date: Oct 2009 Device: none	well. that's exactly what a research test would show or disprove wouldn't it? that lcd and eink have the same, or different reading qualities. still doesn't change the fact that your reference was really nothing more than a fluff piece which lacked any sort of testing at all.

05-12-2010, 10:12 AM	#87
scottjl Reader of Books Posts: 1,632 Karma: 2697 Join Date: Oct 2009 Device: none	lol. you brought a paper that isn't much better than marketing material from eink manufactures, who probably commissioned the "study" to begin with. next you'll be quoting the national enquirer? you've dragged this thread off-topic enough. enjoy your b/w eink and your "proof". i'm not here to teach you proper research methods.

05-12-2010, 05:43 PM	#89
Crowl Wizard Posts: 1,340 Karma: 1160346 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Southport, GB Device: Kindle Voyage, PW Signature edition	Mods, is there any chance of changing the title of this thread so people won't mistakenly expect to find stuff about comics on the ipad in here when actually it is now a tired old e-ink vs lcd argument that might be relevant to ebooks, but has nothing at all to do with comics since the vast majority of them need a colour screen.

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