Index of Custom Dictionaries for Kobo eReader - Page 67

cessen · 08-24-2021, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Ceiyne

I was wondering if you planned to periodically re-run your conversion to stay up to date with changes in JMDict.

I hadn't really thought about it. My general impression is that the updates made to JMDict at this point are pretty minor, so it would take a quite a while (probably years?) before updating would make much difference to an end-user. So I don't feel super motivated to do that on any kind of regular schedule.

But I do plan to make other updates to the dictionary. So now that you've mentioned it, I'll try to make sure to update JMDict as well whenever I make other updates, because it certainly doesn't hurt.

Incidentally, do you have any requests for things that would make the dictionary even more useful to you?

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I saw your page but I'm not familiar with all the tools you use so I don't think it's something I could easily do myself.

Yeah, no worries! I really just make the tools available for people that want to do something custom. I'll always provide the latest standard version of the dictionary itself for download as well.

Part of why I even started this project was that although I found some resources for Kobo J-E dictionaries, they were only ever tools... which never seemed to work. And people never posted the dictionaries themselves for download (I suspect for copyright reasons, because unlike mine I think they used non-freely-licensed source material). It was very frustrating.

My goal is for this dictionary to always be super easy (and legal) for anyone to download and use.

SeaBookGuy · 08-25-2021, 07:15 PM

Sorry if I'm hijacking this thread to some, but after a lot of searching I can't seem to find a definitive idea of what to expect...

I have a Kobo on the way to replace a deceased Sony. I read books in Spanish on it, selecting ES - EN as the default dictionary for the device, which worked very well. I have a Kindle, which recognizes a Spanish book, giving English definitions upon tapping. How does Kobo handle that? Must I select English as a "destination" translation for each word individually selected? Also, does it make a difference whether the book has been sideloaded?

Many thanks!

Uschiekid · 08-26-2021, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SeaBookGuy

Sorry if I'm hijacking this thread to some, but after a lot of searching I can't seem to find a definitive idea of what to expect...

I have a Kobo on the way to replace a deceased Sony. I read books in Spanish on it, selecting ES - EN as the default dictionary for the device, which worked very well. I have a Kindle, which recognizes a Spanish book, giving English definitions upon tapping. How does Kobo handle that? Must I select English as a "destination" translation for each word individually selected? Also, does it make a difference whether the book has been sideloaded?

Many thanks!

No and no. In general, if your device language is english it will assume you want to translate to english from other languages (ie if you choose spanish as your device language, it will assume you are spanish speaking). But if you choose a different dictionary, it will then stick with that one (at least within the same book....for example if you want to up your skills and read the spanish definition in the spanish-spanish dictionary, it will then use that dictionary within that book, until you select a different one). Doesn't make a difference whether sideloaded or not for what language dictionary is selected.

SeaBookGuy · 08-26-2021, 07:30 PM

Many thanks!

Hamor · 08-30-2021, 10:40 AM

Hi,

Unfortunately the Swedish English or English Swedish dictionaries seems to have the wrong file or link to it as it shows as German dictionaries. Could you please or anyone help me out with these ones.

Many thanks in advance!

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Originally Posted by AlPe

Hi, I am Alberto Pettarin, the creator of Penelope, a tool for creating/merging/converting dictionaries, including the Kobo format.

Since I am overloaded by requests like "can you convert this dictionary X for my Kobo?", I start this thread to collect links to custom dictionaries for Kobo eReaders.

Please respect the copyright laws, and NEVER EVER post about converted dictionaries that infringe them. (Also, do not attempt at mailing me asking for converting copyrighted material, I will not help you on that.)

Instructions on how to install a custom dictionary on your Kobo can be found in the README of the GitHub repo: https://github.com/pettarin/penelope

Click on the following button to see the list of dictionaries:

Spoiler:

Now it is your turn! Please post in this thread, if you made or got to know about custom made dictionaries.

ycm · 09-03-2021, 04:49 PM

Hi, I've been trying to create a custom Chinese dictionary with Penelope:

I made a csv with two entries and ran the following command:

penelope -i test.csv -j csv -f zh -t zh -p kobo -o dicthtml-zh --group-by-prefix-length 1

I put the outputted ZIP in .kobo/custom-dict and it shows up on my Kobo, but if I highlight a word for which I made an entry in the CSV, and switch to the custom dictionary, my Kobo says that there is no entry found in the dictionary.

Here is a Google drive link with my csv and the outputted zip: https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...t4?usp=sharing

Would anybody be able to figure out the cause of the problem?

Owl_ · 09-05-2021, 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Hamor

Hi,

Unfortunately the Swedish English or English Swedish dictionaries seems to have the wrong file or link to it as it shows as German dictionaries. Could you please or anyone help me out with these ones.

Many thanks in advance!

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh...&postcount=578

rtiangha · 09-07-2021, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by cessen

But I do plan to make other updates to the dictionary. So now that you've mentioned it, I'll try to make sure to update JMDict as well whenever I make other updates, because it certainly doesn't hurt.

Incidentally, do you have any requests for things that would make the dictionary even more useful to you?

I just wanted to say that I'm finding this dictionary super useful and that I really appreciate you taking the time to create a version that works properly on a Kobo. Trying to use pyglossary to convert one from source doesn't work properly.

I'm not sure if you were aware, but starting in June 2021, they started to incorporate example sentences taken from the Tanaka Corpus into JMdict. I'm not sure if they're tagged differently or if they're already included in the definitions, but if they're not, would you consider adding them in (or generating a new version since the one posted is from April)? I know adding more data might add more noise to something intended as a minimal reading dictionary, but for someone like me who's still trying to learn the language, it's nice to stumble upon things like other uses or other contexts when encountering new words or terms.

It's weird that it's not linked to in the main project page, but the version with example sentences can be found on their wiki here:

https://www.edrdg.org/wiki/index.php...ionary_Project

And pie-in-the-sky feature request: Merging in the JMnedict entries as well (I can't tell if they were reincorporated back into JMdict proper after the split).

cessen · 09-16-2021, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by rtiangha

I just wanted to say that I'm finding this dictionary super useful and that I really appreciate you taking the time to create a version that works properly on a Kobo.

I'm glad it's working well for you!

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I'm not sure if you were aware, but starting in June 2021, they started to incorporate example sentences taken from the Tanaka Corpus into JMdict.

Oh, interesting! I was not aware of that, no.

In practice, I'm not sure how useful they would be for a reading-oriented dictionary, though. When reading, you already have an example sentence right there in the book. And I would worry both about it bloating the size of the dictionary file and making it harder to browse the definitions by making the entries longer.

But I'll keep it in mind anyway. It's probably something I could add as an option in the tool, so people can build their own custom dictionaries with the example sentences included if they like.

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And pie-in-the-sky feature request: Merging in the JMnedict entries as well (I can't tell if they were reincorporated back into JMdict proper after the split).

Actually, that's already going to be in the next version of the dictionary, along with entries for individual kanji. I've been testing it out for a few weeks now, and it seems to work pretty well, so I'll probably be releasing that pretty soon. I'll post here when I do.

rtiangha · 09-17-2021, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by cessen

I'm glad it's working well for you!
But I'll keep it in mind anyway. It's probably something I could add as an option in the tool, so people can build their own custom dictionaries with the example sentences included if they like.

An option would be nice. Or maybe since they're different files, if the regular English one is used, create the reading dictionary, and if the one with examples is used, create a more verbose learner's dictionary instead could work too.

Anyway, thanks for looking into it and am looking forward to the new version!

Onlypepe · 09-27-2021, 10:18 AM

Can anyone pls help me convert this dict http://download.huzheng.org/zh_CN/st...-2.4.2.tar.bz2 for kobo? Language is from CN to CN. I am having trouble with penelope

Semwize · 09-27-2021, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Onlypepe

Can anyone pls help me convert this dict http://download.huzheng.org/zh_CN/st...-2.4.2.tar.bz2

https://www.sendspace.com/file/75g0wh

untested

P.S. do not forget to replace the font for the dictionary (there is a lot in the topic how to do this, I will not repeat myself), otherwise it will not display.

Nicolae · 10-10-2021, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Lorys

Thank you!
You're the BEST!

Hi @Lorys,
Do you still have this archive dicthtml-en-ro.zip?
I face the same problem and I can't find a translator from en-> ro.
If you still have the archive, you can send it to me, please?

Thanks.

Owl_ · 10-12-2021, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicolae

Hi @Lorys,
Do you still have this archive dicthtml-en-ro.zip?
I face the same problem and I can't find a translator from en-> ro.
If you still have the archive, you can send it to me, please?

Thanks.

This should solve your problem

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh...&postcount=902

Bye

Nicolae · 10-13-2021, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Owl_

This should solve your problem

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh...&postcount=902

Bye

Wonderful!
That's exactly what I was looking for.
Thank you!

09-03-2021, 04:49 PM	#996
ycm Junior Member Posts: 1 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2021 Device: Kobo Clara HD	Dictionary with Chinese as source language? Hi, I've been trying to create a custom Chinese dictionary with Penelope: I made a csv with two entries and ran the following command: penelope -i test.csv -j csv -f zh -t zh -p kobo -o dicthtml-zh --group-by-prefix-length 1 I put the outputted ZIP in .kobo/custom-dict and it shows up on my Kobo, but if I highlight a word for which I made an entry in the CSV, and switch to the custom dictionary, my Kobo says that there is no entry found in the dictionary. Here is a Google drive link with my csv and the outputted zip: https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...t4?usp=sharing Would anybody be able to figure out the cause of the problem?

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SeaBookGuy Can one read too much? Posts: 2,015 Karma: 2487799 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Naples, FL Device: Kindle PW 3, Sony 350 and 650	Sorry if I'm hijacking this thread to some, but after a lot of searching I can't seem to find a definitive idea of what to expect... I have a Kobo on the way to replace a deceased Sony. I read books in Spanish on it, selecting ES - EN as the default dictionary for the device, which worked very well. I have a Kindle, which recognizes a Spanish book, giving English definitions upon tapping. How does Kobo handle that? Must I select English as a "destination" translation for each word individually selected? Also, does it make a difference whether the book has been sideloaded? Many thanks!

08-26-2021, 07:30 PM	#994
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Onlypepe Junior Member Posts: 1 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2021 Device: Kobo Libra H2O	Can anyone pls help me convert this dict http://download.huzheng.org/zh_CN/st...-2.4.2.tar.bz2 for kobo? Language is from CN to CN. I am having trouble with penelope

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