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Old 08-23-2024, 12:45 PM   #151
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I don't think they ever shutdown wifi, but you could no longer download books from their store via wifi after 17th August 2022

I remember reading this, but could not find anywhere (or anybody) that said why this was done, but I suspect Amazon were updating the security on their servers (probably to require TLS 1.2) which meant that older devices could longer access amazon's webservers securely.
From their store or from your Kindle library? Last I checked, the latter still worked (I don't remember exactly when it was, though).
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Old 08-23-2024, 12:56 PM   #152
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I don't think they ever shutdown wifi, but you could no longer download books from their store via wifi after 17th August 2022

I remember reading this, but could not find anywhere (or anybody) that said why this was done, but I suspect Amazon were updating the security on their servers (probably to require TLS 1.2) which meant that older devices could longer access amazon's webservers securely.
I just turned OF Airplane mode and tried.

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Old 08-23-2024, 02:36 PM   #153
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I just turned OF Airplane mode and tried.

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Did you try to buy from the store or download an already purchased book?
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Old 08-23-2024, 02:48 PM   #154
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From their store or from your Kindle library? Last I checked, the latter still worked (I don't remember exactly when it was, though).
I have to confess I don't remember the details to that extend. I soft of lost interest after going through the list of affected devices and mine was not included.
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Old 08-23-2024, 03:16 PM   #155
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Well, I just tried. Downloading an already purchased book from my Kindle library via wifi still works on my Kindle 4, no Download & Transfer needed. Kindle Store doesn't work.

That said, there are a couple of old models with only 3G, no wifi, so they would need D&T for downloading any books, even those already purchased.
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Old 08-23-2024, 03:29 PM   #156
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Add in Simon & Schuster because they removed DRM from Star Trek eBooks.
I noticed that the Trek books I buy from Kobo, half are DRM-free while the other half use ACSMs. I've never quite found a pattern either.
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Old 08-23-2024, 03:49 PM   #157
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(Not that I use this mode on my WiFi K4-nt)
But when did they shut down WiFi?
I knew Whispernet (cell service) was dropped because there are no CARRIERS for that old type of cell service
My Kindle Touch can download eBooks from Amazon.
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Old 08-23-2024, 03:52 PM   #158
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I noticed that the Trek books I buy from Kobo, half are DRM-free while the other half use ACSMs. I've never quite found a pattern either.
That is odd. Maybe try buying Star Trek eBook from eBooks.com and see what you get.
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Saga is an imprint of S&S. But it seems like maybe they aren't DRM-free anymore. At least a quick look at a few recent books from them at Kobo didn't turn up any. Tor still is though and all their book descriptions say DRM-free even at Amazon where it is only true if you get it in non-kfx.

My Kobo Touch syncs over wifi. The store doesn't work, but I always buy books via the website anyway.
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Old 08-25-2024, 06:19 AM   #160
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Because older kindle cannot download ebooks with wifi anymore from amazon server, like my kindle 4 for example.
This is not true. My Kindle Keyboard (3rd gen Kindle from 2010) happily downloads books over either WiFi or 3g. I did so this morning. What I cant do is purchase books using it.
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Old 08-25-2024, 07:54 AM   #161
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This is not true. My Kindle Keyboard (3rd gen Kindle from 2010) happily downloads books over either WiFi or 3g. I did so this morning. What I cant do is purchase books using it.
Maybe you are still logged in. I had to log out one time and now I cannot log in.
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Old 08-25-2024, 03:02 PM   #162
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Maybe you are still logged in. I had to log out one time and now I cannot log in.
You should be able to login, but need to append 2 factor code to password I think.
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Of course, you need to be logged in to sync books from your account wirelessly. If you aren't logged in, does that Kindle still show as an option for "download & transfer"? And if so, do those books work on that un-logged-in Kindle if they have drm?

In other words, "download & transfer" might not do you any good on an unlogged-in Kindle no matter its age unless the book is drm-free (or drm removed).
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Old 08-30-2024, 09:44 PM   #164
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Good morning - I have searched the forums & cant find a current answer
I have a new PC & downloaded Kindle onto it & now cannot use Callibre to convert my books
I have uninstalled but have no idea where to go to get a version of Kindle that will allow me to convert my books to a PDF
Can someone please help
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You should be able to login, but need to append 2 factor code to password I think.
It's a real pain to register an older Kindle. I did that with a Kindle Touch and it was not easy. I just don't recall how I did it.
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