Court Settlement eMail from Amazon? - Page 4

EowynCarter · 10-15-2012, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by DiapDealer

Did you? Did you jump through technological geo-restrictive hoops to make these purchases directly though US ebook retailers, or did you purchase the ebooks the normal way?... Through foreign (to the US) subsidiaries licensed to sell the ebooks in your country. A country that is bound by entirely different laws and entirely different contracts between publisher/retailer?

Back then yes. The UK shops had close down on us, there was nowhere to buy books in English.

Now kobo have some books from the US publishers, and they do have the UK one.

luqmaninbmore · 10-15-2012, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Pookeysgirl

There's already a thread on this here: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=193747

That's for the email from Amazon. This is a different, suspicious, email that is circulating.

Pookeysgirl · 10-15-2012, 10:52 AM

See this post: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...5&postcount=37

Looks like it's the same as yours.

luqmaninbmore · 10-15-2012, 11:00 AM

Missed that one. I think it probably deserves its own thread, at least until it can be determined that it's not a phishing attempt.

ProfCrash · 10-15-2012, 11:34 AM

luqmaninbmore: Amazon has its own email which includes, word for word, the email that you posted. I read that BN will be able to provide credit, like Amazon, but that Sony and other bookstores would not be able to. I think that you go to that website if you bought books from Sony or other companies or if you want a check instead of store credit at Amazon or BN. I am not sure if Kobo users will get a credit or have to apply seperatly.

ProfCrash · 10-15-2012, 11:44 AM

I went to the website in Amazon's email. www.EBookAGSettlements.com

I went to file a claim and found the following information: https://ebooksagsettlements.com/FileaClaim.aspx

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If you bought E-book(s) through Amazon, you are not required to file a Claim Form to participate in the Settlements. You will receive a credit in your retailer account or you can request a check.

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If you bought E-book(s) through Apple, Barnes & Noble or Kobo, you are not required to file a Claim Form to participate in this Settlement. You will receive an email or postcard notice with information about how to activate your credit or you can request a check.

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If you bought E-books from Google or Sony, you are required to complete an online Claim Form. You will need to provide your Settlement ID number that was sent to you in an email or postcard when submitting your Claim. You are not required to complete Section III of the Claim Form.

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If you bought E-book(s) from any other retailer not named above you are required to file a Claim Form in order to receive a settlement payment. Claim Forms must be filed online or mailed postmarked by December 12, 2012

Down below is the information that you have to provide in order to get a cash award. It looks like Google and Sony users are screwed and will have to hand file for every title.

ProfCrash · 10-15-2012, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by EowynCarter

Because we bought books from these US company.

I get it but you were not suppose to be able to buy books from a US retailer. We all know that it is easy enough to get around that restriction but legally, you were not suppose to be buying from Amazon US or any other US store.

It does suck though, you spent the money and should be able to recover something.

murraypaul · 10-15-2012, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ProfCrash

I get it but you were not suppose to be able to buy books from a US retailer. We all know that it is easy enough to get around that restriction but legally, you were not suppose to be buying from Amazon US or any other US store.

That is simply not true.
For some books, geographical restrictions are in place, but not for all.

whitearrow · 10-15-2012, 12:37 PM

Sigh, never mind.

EowynCarter · 10-15-2012, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ProfCrash

I get it but you were not suppose to be able to buy books from a US retailer. We all know that it is easy enough to get around that restriction but legally, you were not suppose to be buying from Amazon US or any other US store.

It does suck though, you spent the money and should be able to recover something.

Yep. Tough I paid a price I did aggree with. Nobody was forcing me to buy the book if I thought it was too expensive.
And what about Minessota?

whitearrow · 10-15-2012, 12:43 PM

The Minnesota AG chose not to participate. If you live there, you sue on your own, join a private class action or get nothing.

JoHunt · 10-15-2012, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ProfCrash

I get it but you were not suppose to be able to buy books from a US retailer. We all know that it is easy enough to get around that restriction but legally, you were not suppose to be buying from Amazon US or any other US store.

This is not correct. Anyone can register and purchase ebooks from Amazon.com with a foreign address and credit card.

The books which you can purchase are subject to geo-restrictions, but hundreds of thousands of ebooks have no such restrictions. You might pay more (or less) than the US price, but the books can be purchased nonetheless by those with non-USA billing information.

ProfCrash · 10-15-2012, 12:59 PM

Gotcha. I was not aware that so many books were not restricted. I have seen more posts on how to get around those restrictions then I have discussing the books that are freely available.

I would guess that this settlement is between the States and the Publishers, not the Federal Government and so the people who are protected are those who live in those States. Minnesota choose not to participate in the law suit which is why they are not able to receive compensation. I am not sure that a Federal settlement would lead to reimbursment for people outside the US.

But I am not a lawyer and I only park at a Holiday Inn

ProfCrash · 10-15-2012, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by EowynCarter

Yep. Tough I paid a price I did aggree with. Nobody was forcing me to buy the book if I thought it was too expensive.
And what about Minessota?

That logic holds for all of the books I bought but I get something because I live in one of the 49 states that sued. It would be nice to find away to get something to people from outside the US. (shrugs)

JoHunt · 10-15-2012, 01:05 PM

Obviously the settlement is only valid for US residents (and for those who made arrangements to get around geo-restrictions as long as they don't "reside" in Minnesota).

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Originally Posted by ProfCrash

But I am not a lawyer and I only park at a Holiday Inn

10-15-2012, 11:34 AM	#50
ProfCrash Tea Enthusiast Posts: 8,554 Karma: 75384937 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Somewhere in the USA Device: Kindle1, Kindle DX Graphite, K3 3G, IPad 3, PW2	luqmaninbmore: Amazon has its own email which includes, word for word, the email that you posted. I read that BN will be able to provide credit, like Amazon, but that Sony and other bookstores would not be able to. I think that you go to that website if you bought books from Sony or other companies or if you want a check instead of store credit at Amazon or BN. I am not sure if Kobo users will get a credit or have to apply seperatly. Last edited by ProfCrash; 10-15-2012 at 11:40 AM.

10-15-2012, 12:37 PM	#54
whitearrow Guru Posts: 808 Karma: 2260766 Join Date: Apr 2008 Device: Kindle Oasis 2	Sigh, never mind. Last edited by whitearrow; 10-15-2012 at 12:40 PM.

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10-15-2012, 10:52 AM	#48
Pookeysgirl Wizard Posts: 1,705 Karma: 12696746 Join Date: May 2010 Device: K3, Kobo Mini	See this post: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...5&postcount=37 Looks like it's the same as yours.

10-15-2012, 11:00 AM	#49
luqmaninbmore Da'i Posts: 1,144 Karma: 1217499 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Baltimore Device: Toshiba Thrive, Kobo Touch, Kindle 1, Aluratek Libre, T-Mobile Comet	Missed that one. I think it probably deserves its own thread, at least until it can be determined that it's not a phishing attempt.

10-15-2012, 11:44 AM	#51
ProfCrash Tea Enthusiast Posts: 8,554 Karma: 75384937 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Somewhere in the USA Device: Kindle1, Kindle DX Graphite, K3 3G, IPad 3, PW2	I went to the website in Amazon's email. www.EBookAGSettlements.com I went to file a claim and found the following information: https://ebooksagsettlements.com/FileaClaim.aspx ■ If you bought E-book(s) through Amazon, you are not required to file a Claim Form to participate in the Settlements. You will receive a credit in your retailer account or you can request a check. ■ If you bought E-book(s) through Apple, Barnes & Noble or Kobo, you are not required to file a Claim Form to participate in this Settlement. You will receive an email or postcard notice with information about how to activate your credit or you can request a check. ■ If you bought E-books from Google or Sony, you are required to complete an online Claim Form. You will need to provide your Settlement ID number that was sent to you in an email or postcard when submitting your Claim. You are not required to complete Section III of the Claim Form. ■ If you bought E-book(s) from any other retailer not named above you are required to file a Claim Form in order to receive a settlement payment. Claim Forms must be filed online or mailed postmarked by December 12, 2012 Down below is the information that you have to provide in order to get a cash award. It looks like Google and Sony users are screwed and will have to hand file for every title.

10-15-2012, 12:43 PM	#56
whitearrow Guru Posts: 808 Karma: 2260766 Join Date: Apr 2008 Device: Kindle Oasis 2	The Minnesota AG chose not to participate. If you live there, you sue on your own, join a private class action or get nothing.

10-15-2012, 12:59 PM	#58
ProfCrash Tea Enthusiast Posts: 8,554 Karma: 75384937 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Somewhere in the USA Device: Kindle1, Kindle DX Graphite, K3 3G, IPad 3, PW2	Gotcha. I was not aware that so many books were not restricted. I have seen more posts on how to get around those restrictions then I have discussing the books that are freely available. I would guess that this settlement is between the States and the Publishers, not the Federal Government and so the people who are protected are those who live in those States. Minnesota choose not to participate in the law suit which is why they are not able to receive compensation. I am not sure that a Federal settlement would lead to reimbursment for people outside the US. But I am not a lawyer and I only park at a Holiday Inn

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