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As far as I'm concerned, Star Wars should have stopped with the first movie. But that first one was really something. There had never been anything like it. "CGI" effects before there was CGI. |
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I remember reading that it was due to post war paper shortages.
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I actually liked the second Star Wars movie. It was pretty neat that Lucas put his money where his mouth was, so to speak, and financed that movie himself. Some people actually consider it Empire the best of the movies. I like the first one best with the heavy use of archetypes and mythology. The Ewoks just make me think there was an eye on marketing as much as story and characters in Return. Now the whole thing is literally "Disneyfied" and marketing is everything with story taking a back seat. I knew franchise was in trouble years ago when I read a Star Wars sequel book and Han was getting chased by zombies. Yeah, way past jumping the shark On a more positive note, the animated Star Wars series are not bad. They are not made to be block busters. The stories and characters can grow a bit within that format. |
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It came out in the mid 50's so the paper shortages should have been over well before then. I remember reading that they split it into 3 books because the one massive book would have been very expensive to produce. Back then, books were frequently much shorter. I know that the LOTR Wiki says that it was to mitigate the possibility of being a flop, but I'm pretty sure I read the other in a quote from Tolkien.
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Food rationing didn't end until '54.
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I'm sure the economics of the time were a lot different to today's in general. For example when Oswald assassinated Kennedy he then ducked into a movie theater (without paying). The cost to buy a ticket back in 1963 was just under $1.00.
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It is difficult to come up with examples where sequels by someone other than the original author are equal to or better than the preceding works.
In movies, there are I would say many examples where the remake or reboot or sequel is better. I may be an outlier, but I never much cared for the first six Star Wars movies, while the latest two (and even the spinoffs) are quite good. Likewise the Nolan Batman movies were much better than the previous ones. I think a lot of this has to do with what it is technically possible to realize today with CGI, it is limited not so much by budget but by imagination. But with books it is about plain old storytelling. |
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He's only 94, plenty of time to change his mind ... again. (Like those sports stars who keeps retiring ... he won't be able to "leave the game.") I can't even imagine him having spent fifty or sixty years doing this. I wish him well.
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I don't mind remakes. The Maltese Falcon and The Wizard of Oz were remakes after all. You could wind up with a nice new take on a classic (the Dawn of the Dead remake was better than expected). Worst case, you have a bad remake and the classic stands (most of the remakes of John Carpenter films).
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