Different Font with iSilo

Alexander Turcic · 03-25-2003, 08:58 AM

Some people have complained that iSilo doesn't support different fonts like for instance PalmReader Pro does.

But you can use different fonts with iSilo. Lubak gives an excellent explanation how to do that. He offers solutions for both, Palm OS 4.x and 5.x users.

For OS 4.x users (like myself), you basically need three things:[list=1][*]A hack manager a la Tealmaster (Payware) or X-Master (free) [*]FontHack 4.0c Beta (make sure you scroll down to the hi-res download)[*]A font database. Here you have the choice. You can either pick one font database from Lubak's page, or you can get the Swiz font, or you can use (if you already own it) or buy the Palm Reader Pro Font Packs.[/list=1]
In your hack manager you can configure Fonthack to map the new font to your current system font. You can do this either specifically for iSilo, or system-wide.

My favorite Font (which I use since day 2 of my Clie) is the "OS5" font from Lubak's page. The font mapping for this font is:
HrStandard -> OS5 (0)
HrBold -> OS5 (1)
HrLarge -> OS5 (2)
HrLargeBold -> OS5 (3)

I will post some comparison screenshots in the next few days.

If anyone of you owns a OS 5.x Palm and want to tell us his/her experience with font replacements, please do so here

sUnShInE · 03-25-2003, 02:09 PM

The only reason I used PalmReader Pro instead of iSilo for reading ebooks (one of my fave past times) was because of the fonts.

Wow. Thanks Alexander! I'm going to dump PRP.

radleyp · 03-25-2003, 03:01 PM

I use Palm Reader Pro because of the books I can get there and nowhere else, the Webster's Unabridged for example. Tell me how I can get that elsewhere, and I too will consider limiting myself to iSilo alone. RadleyP

radleyp · 03-25-2003, 03:22 PM

One further note: I cannot use FontHack anyhow, since it conflicts with cyrillic localization. Either one or the other, not both, works. RadleyP

Alexander Turcic · 03-26-2003, 10:43 AM

Webster's Unabridged is also available as stand-alone for PalmOS, but it comes with the awkward Franklin Bookreader.

kstuart · 03-27-2003, 02:56 AM

Isilo consistently uses fonts that are too small for me to see (due to using HiRes).

I use FontHack 123 using the same mapping listed above - but the problem is that Isilo doesn't use the "HR___" fonts.

Since the Standard font is used in the menu system, if I map that font using FontHack 123, then the menus become unusable.

If I set Isilo to "Large Font Absolute", then I can map the Large Font to a font that I want to use (and standard stays the same so that menus are okay), but I lose all the formatting - for some reason, it doesn't use then use LargeBold for Bold text, and so forth, it just uses the one font for everything.

That setup works for Shadow Plan, because that program works well with one font and font size for everything, but in Isilo, I lose everything that I want out of a web page reader if I do that.

This looks like a "deal breaker", frankly.

PS Another problem I've encountered is that the synced files don't end up in the categories in the Isilo viewer that are set in IsiloX.

Alexander Turcic · 03-27-2003, 03:04 AM

iSilo uses the HR fonts. Have a look at the next two screenshots.

Alexander Turcic · 03-27-2003, 03:05 AM

iSilo using original 4.x fontsettings

Alexander Turcic · 03-27-2003, 03:06 AM

iSilo using Lubak's OS 5 fontsettings (as described here)

Alexander Turcic · 03-27-2003, 03:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kstuart
PS Another problem I've encountered is that the synced files don't end up in the categories in the Isilo viewer that are set in IsiloX.

Interesting. I haven't had this problem and am using categories all the time. Can you tell me your current setup (iSilo version, category name, ...)?

Alexander Turcic · 03-27-2003, 03:16 AM

iSilo using PalmReaderPro's BELL MT fontsettings

Alexander Turcic · 03-27-2003, 03:17 AM

iSilo using PalmReaderPro's BELL MT fontsettings (another screenshot)

Alexander Turcic · 03-27-2003, 03:29 AM

iSilo using PalmReaderPro's Gill Sans fontsettings

Alexander Turcic · 03-27-2003, 03:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kstuart
Since the Standard font is used in the menu system, if I map that font using FontHack 123, then the menus become unusable.

If you use Lubak's mappings for OS5 for instance, the menus still look just fine.

Alexander Turcic · 03-27-2003, 05:29 AM

iSilo using PalmReaderPro's Utah MT Condensed fontsettings

03-25-2003, 08:58 AM	#1
Alexander Turcic Fully Converged Posts: 18,163 Karma: 14021202 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Switzerland Device: Too many to count here.	Different Font with iSilo Some people have complained that iSilo doesn't support different fonts like for instance PalmReader Pro does. But you can use different fonts with iSilo. Lubak gives an excellent explanation how to do that. He offers solutions for both, Palm OS 4.x and 5.x users. For OS 4.x users (like myself), you basically need three things:[list=1][]A hack manager a la Tealmaster (Payware) or X-Master (free) []FontHack 4.0c Beta (make sure you scroll down to the hi-res download)[*]A font database. Here you have the choice. You can either pick one font database from Lubak's page, or you can get the Swiz font, or you can use (if you already own it) or buy the Palm Reader Pro Font Packs.[/list=1] In your hack manager you can configure Fonthack to map the new font to your current system font. You can do this either specifically for iSilo, or system-wide. My favorite Font (which I use since day 2 of my Clie) is the "OS5" font from Lubak's page. The font mapping for this font is: HrStandard -> OS5 (0) HrBold -> OS5 (1) HrLarge -> OS5 (2) HrLargeBold -> OS5 (3) I will post some comparison screenshots in the next few days. If anyone of you owns a OS 5.x Palm and want to tell us his/her experience with font replacements, please do so here

03-27-2003, 03:05 AM	#8
Alexander Turcic Fully Converged Posts: 18,163 Karma: 14021202 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Switzerland Device: Too many to count here.	iSilo using original 4.x fontsettings Attached Thumbnails

03-27-2003, 03:06 AM	#9
Alexander Turcic Fully Converged Posts: 18,163 Karma: 14021202 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Switzerland Device: Too many to count here.	iSilo using Lubak's OS 5 fontsettings (as described here) Attached Thumbnails

03-27-2003, 03:16 AM	#11
Alexander Turcic Fully Converged Posts: 18,163 Karma: 14021202 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Switzerland Device: Too many to count here.	iSilo using PalmReaderPro's BELL MT fontsettings Attached Thumbnails

03-27-2003, 03:17 AM	#12
Alexander Turcic Fully Converged Posts: 18,163 Karma: 14021202 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Switzerland Device: Too many to count here.	iSilo using PalmReaderPro's BELL MT fontsettings (another screenshot) Attached Thumbnails

03-25-2003, 02:09 PM	#2
sUnShInE Drama Queen Posts: 784 Karma: 11712 Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: United States Device: Palm Tungsten T\|T3	The only reason I used PalmReader Pro instead of iSilo for reading ebooks (one of my fave past times) was because of the fonts. Wow. Thanks Alexander! I'm going to dump PRP.

03-25-2003, 03:01 PM	#3
radleyp Evangelist Posts: 499 Karma: 20623 Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: North Salem & NYC, NY Device: Kindle Global, iphone4, ipad	I use Palm Reader Pro because of the books I can get there and nowhere else, the Webster's Unabridged for example. Tell me how I can get that elsewhere, and I too will consider limiting myself to iSilo alone. RadleyP

03-25-2003, 03:22 PM	#4
radleyp Evangelist Posts: 499 Karma: 20623 Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: North Salem & NYC, NY Device: Kindle Global, iphone4, ipad	One further note: I cannot use FontHack anyhow, since it conflicts with cyrillic localization. Either one or the other, not both, works. RadleyP

03-26-2003, 10:43 AM	#5
Alexander Turcic Fully Converged Posts: 18,163 Karma: 14021202 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Switzerland Device: Too many to count here.	Webster's Unabridged is also available as stand-alone for PalmOS, but it comes with the awkward Franklin Bookreader.

03-27-2003, 02:56 AM	#6
kstuart Member Posts: 12 Karma: 28 Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Northern California Device: Clie NR70	Isilo consistently uses fonts that are too small for me to see (due to using HiRes). I use FontHack 123 using the same mapping listed above - but the problem is that Isilo doesn't use the "HR___" fonts. Since the Standard font is used in the menu system, if I map that font using FontHack 123, then the menus become unusable. If I set Isilo to "Large Font Absolute", then I can map the Large Font to a font that I want to use (and standard stays the same so that menus are okay), but I lose all the formatting - for some reason, it doesn't use then use LargeBold for Bold text, and so forth, it just uses the one font for everything. That setup works for Shadow Plan, because that program works well with one font and font size for everything, but in Isilo, I lose everything that I want out of a web page reader if I do that. This looks like a "deal breaker", frankly. PS Another problem I've encountered is that the synced files don't end up in the categories in the Isilo viewer that are set in IsiloX.

03-27-2003, 03:04 AM	#7
Alexander Turcic Fully Converged Posts: 18,163 Karma: 14021202 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Switzerland Device: Too many to count here.	iSilo uses the HR fonts. Have a look at the next two screenshots.

03-27-2003, 03:29 AM	#13
Alexander Turcic Fully Converged Posts: 18,163 Karma: 14021202 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Switzerland Device: Too many to count here.	iSilo using PalmReaderPro's Gill Sans fontsettings Attached Thumbnails

03-27-2003, 05:29 AM	#15
Alexander Turcic Fully Converged Posts: 18,163 Karma: 14021202 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Switzerland Device: Too many to count here.	iSilo using PalmReaderPro's Utah MT Condensed fontsettings Attached Thumbnails

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