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Old 08-12-2018, 11:20 AM   #1
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Question I Need Help With Author & Title Sort, Please

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I thought I understood the Author Sort thing but now I am completely confused. I think I need a set of parameters and where they must go. Here's what I want Calibre to do with every book I add to any library:

1. I want Author Name and sort to be based on First Name Last Name, as in Lee Child NOT Child, Lee.
2. I want Titles to sort like The Summer Home, Not Summer Home, The.

If I could configure Calibre Portable (I am using Portable because I keep it with my library on a flash drive and I don't have to try to get multiple Calibres on different machines to look the same!) to read all books that would be such a help.

I write because I just entered a whole folder of books and ALL of them are Last Name, First Name and I really don't want to have to change each one individually - that's the only way I know to do it!

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There are tweaks for that (even for Portable)
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ID: author_sort_copy_method
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ID: categories_use_field_for_author_name
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ID: title_series_sorting
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There are tweaks for that (even for Portable)
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ID: author_sort_copy_method
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ID: categories_use_field_for_author_name
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OK - two & three I wasn't aware of. But, I changed 2 & 3 and restarted Calibre, but nothing happened! How do I force all of the entries in a library:

1. Change ln, fn -> fn ln.
2. Fix the titles.

Or, will this only work when adding titles which means I have to delete all of them and re-add?

Sorry I am so dumb but most of this is very, very confusing to allow for everything but it's awful confusing - The three you mention I still don't understand - I simply had to guess from among the remaining choices because I knew the one that was there didn't work like I wanted it to!!

Thanks for your help.

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OK - two & three I wasn't aware of. But, I changed 2 & 3 and restarted Calibre, but nothing happened! How do I force all of the entries in a library:

1. Change ln, fn -> fn ln.
2. Fix the titles.

Or, will this only work when adding titles which means I have to delete all of them and re-add?

Sorry I am so dumb but most of this is very, very confusing to allow for everything but it's awful confusing - The three you mention I still don't understand - I simply had to guess from among the remaining choices because I knew the one that was there didn't work like I wanted it to!!

Thanks for your help.

Sparky
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Fot Authors, there are 2 ways:
use the same procedure for Titles (but tick: Automatically Set Author sort)

OR
Open the Tag Browser right Click on Authors: Manage Authors: <see the buttons at the bottom>

For Titles there are 2 ways

Use the Quality check PI to detect Author sort errors.
then select all results, use the FIX section

or
select all (or just wrong): tap 'E" for bulk metadata edit: TicUpdate title sort (near the bottom)
Select All books
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Still No Success :>((

Hello:

I guess I must be as thick as two planks. The things you suggested that I could figure out didn't work. I could not figure out what the "Quality check PI" was and I couldn't find it when I searched the manual. I guess I'm going to have to do it all manually.

I am very frustrated because Calibre provides all kinds of ways to put the authors in "ln, fn" format from just about anything but convert from "ln, fn" to "fn ln" I can find nothing!! I want both the authors and the author_sort to be that format and I can find nothing that does that.

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@TheArtfulDodger - the Quality Check PI is an optional plugin, all such plugins are documented in the Plugins sub-forum right here at MR. When someone mentions a Plugin (PI), likely as not they'll be referring to an optional PI.

See Index of plugins - as you'll see there are lots of optional plugins, you install them from Preferences->Advanced->Plugins.

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Thank you to all of you that proposed solutions. I have finally mastered the "fix" in Quality Check" which will fix things that are already in the database, but I cannot do anything to get around using it - in other words, when I Add books, I still know of no way to force "Author" to "fn ln" (if I could I can make "Author_Sort" = "Author"; nor do I know how to force the same effect as the "fix" "Author Initials" on input!

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Thank you to all of you that proposed solutions. I have finally mastered the "fix" in Quality Check" which will fix things that are already in the database, but I cannot do anything to get around using it - in other words, when I Add books, I still know of no way to force "Author" to "fn ln" (if I could I can make "Author_Sort" = "Author"; nor do I know how to force the same effect as the "fix" "Author Initials" on input!
The following Preferences settings are germane to your main issue.

Tweaks->Author sort name algorithm

Adding Books->Reading metadata->Swap author firstname and lastname when reading author from filename

Adding Books->Reading metadata->Regular Expression

AFAIK - the option in the Quality Check plugin is the only way to 'fix' inconsistent initials, other than adjusting them manually when you add new books.

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