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Sounds like a fairly closed system to me. Let's now welcome Amazon into the world of Apple.
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11-19-2007, 10:47 AM | #18 |
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Everything I've read and watched at Amazon gives me the impression that there is no computer sync option. You simply hook up to the computer to transfer your own files. In one video there was emphasis that you do not need to use a computer at all to acquire and read books. It does support an SD card. There is also an "experimental" (Amazon's name) text based web browser.
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engadget has hands-on post up
"We're a little worried that the absolutely massive page forward / back buttons might get inadvertently triggered here and there, though." good thought |
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11-19-2007, 12:13 PM | #22 |
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Let me put it like this:
Would you buy an audio-player that: a) supports only a proprietary system b) supports only music bought in a single shop and NON of the widespread formats and doesn't allow you to play that music on ANY other device? Not even your PC? No, Amazon is far worse than Apple. I think they screwed this up for good - and I seriously hope they will fail with this. Fail hard. The alternative is just to scary to be mentioned here. Okay, I warned you. If the kindle is a success, I see a future where Amazon kind-of replaces Microsoft. Only Amazon will sell new eBooks and only Amazons devices will play them. Am I disappointed? Yes. How can a company be so fucking braindead to a) learn NOTHING from the music-industry (to much DRM kills a market. To many filetypes kill a market, to closed systems kill a market) b) insist on bringing ALL devices to the US market and NON to any other market - what is the sense in this? Okay, there is none. It is just braindead stupid. ARGL. I just hope they fail like noone failed before. |
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11-19-2007, 12:37 PM | #24 |
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Regarding storing the books on Amazon's servers -- they're doing this for movies on their "Amazon Unbox" service (basically you can rent or buy movies direct to your Tivo or other DVR if it's networked, it's a pretty neat service, but finding titles is a serious pain in the sitter-downer). I'm guessing that folks are embracing the model enough on videos that Amazon thinks it's worth trying with books. They probably have a point -- the average person doesn't want to have to keep track of such details, and they're inoculated to it by the iTunes effect.
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11-19-2007, 01:50 PM | #26 |
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My favorite comment at Engadget is by the guy who points out that not even early adopters would shell out $399 for this device ... ahahahaha ... little does he know....
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11-19-2007, 02:21 PM | #27 |
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ARGL, I didn't even want to post that comment ... in fact I wanted to click "Go Advanced" because I wanted to rewrite it, suspend my notebook and have a look after walking my dog. Ah, whatever.
What I meant is: There are some really great ideas in the kindle. I *love* the idea of having WiFi-Access and directly downloading the books - so not being able to load them to my notebook and read them there kinda makes a stupid out of a brilliant idea. I guess I will nearly always have a reader where I have my notebook. But I just want to be able to use *both*. I mean: if you life in the US and don't have access to Whispernet - how do you get your kindle books? And don't tell me that every little city and every little farm with some kind of internet-access will have a Whispernet-Access... Newspaper directly to the eReader: WHOA! I preach "this will be the future of newspapers" to everyone not retreating fast enough for the last years - and they implement it! I love it! I mean: Perfect! And then - download only via Whispernet. Why? Cheaper eBooks than nowadays and reading the first chapter for free? Perfect! But again: Kindle-Fileformat. Sell only to US - why? I would love the device - providing it could read e.g. PDF and kindle-books were just mobipocket (or a similar existing version) which could at least be read on my notebook. And no - Amazon is not like Apple: I can listen to my iTunes-Songs on my PC. And I can play MP3 on the iPod - but I can't read PDFs on the Kindle and I can't read Kindle-Books on my PC. And at the very least those two options are more than needed. Even Sony - king of DRM and senseless copyright-technologie that violates existing laws - had a more user-friendly DRM approach than than Amazon ... I never would have believed this to be possible... Last edited by tirsales; 11-19-2007 at 02:37 PM. |
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I can't tell you how many times I've read this online: "ZOMG!!!!11 I just got a new computer and plugged my iPod into it and it wiped out all my songs!" That's part of iTunes DRM. Your average iPod consumer doesn't realize it (until they get hit by it). People just assume that they're getting a certain level of fair use when they buy. They're not really reading up on it before hand. People grumble a bit but you don't see mass defection from iPods. Most people I know won't have one because of these kinds of practices. Are we hurting Apple's bottom line? No. Will Amazon's target market be as bovine as Apple's? That remains to be seen. What's troubling me at the moment is that if Amazon succeeds, this may mean a lot more ebook titles available for all of us (yay!) but it becomes another success for restrictive DRM. More companies will probably try it. If they fail, it sets the ebook business back a fair ways. Many will interpret it as a lack of interest. |
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Oh: However small the market from the geeks will be - geeks are essentially the carriers of a market. They start a market, they test new devices, they develop the new software, etc We have more power than you imagine (less than I would like, but more than you seem to think ) |
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