APPLE! Please bring back the Newton!

yvanleterrible · 11-10-2006, 09:33 AM

...with eink this time, and usb, and SD and...

yvanleterrible · 11-10-2006, 02:34 PM

No one else interested? Just the design of it could be interesting!

Bob Russell · 11-10-2006, 03:51 PM

I think it was before it's time. A shame it didn't catch on and continue to grow. I think there is a newton emulator, so you could probably do something like this with a UMPC.

Don't hit me, but I think it's probably more of a nostalgic thing to want a Newton, and not a widespread marketable idea... despite the things it got right, modern versions of eBook readers and PDAs are probably better. If nothing else, they have support for things like e-ink and usb on the e-ink side, and wifi, applications written, etc. on the pda side.

On the other hand, there's almost a universal cry for Apple to come out with a Tablet PC. And I think it would create a huge interest if they did an e-book reader, whether it was e-ink or other display technology. Maybe as an extension of their growing iPod line, which is already moving into multimedia capabilities.

Alexander Turcic · 11-11-2006, 04:40 AM

My guess: Apple is holding back because their gadget division clearly focuses on the mass market. And until e-books become a mass market, it's a looooong time to go (only my guess).

Snappy! · 11-11-2006, 10:12 AM

Or they could do an iBod or iPok ... hmmm ....

I assure you that when they finally do ... apple fans will act as though the very idea of ebook readers was invented by Steve Jobs and that it is heralding in a brand new paradigm.

.... don't believe... just wait and see ...

That aside, I think it can only be good news if apple join in the foray ...

yvanleterrible · 11-11-2006, 11:40 AM

The thing that prompted me to desire the comeback of Newton is mostly for good software like iTunes. Connect software is not up to par with the reader. I think iTunes is better than the iPod itself, what ever detractors think.

Nightwing · 11-11-2006, 02:16 PM

Something been spinning around in my thinking...

1) Diddent Job's have the head of Sony on stage for one of the dog and pony shows?
2) Its a bit weird how limited parts of CONNECT kind of act like iTunes. Or have basic logic. ( could be a copy )
3) Why playback ACC { Basically Apples m4a audio format }? It does play unencrypted iTunes songs. It eats a bit more power than mp3. And with some work could maybe play encrypted iTunes?

Could it be either they were working on something and fell out or that something has not filter out yet. Its a pretty big stretch but have seen strange things in the past.

Take the new apple hub being released next year for media and add the Reader to the mix. Or a combo flexible page reader or some other concept.

A heavy battery that good for a day of music or longer for pages. A bit odd...

Would not be surprise to see Sony and Apple were partner then split like Sony/Nintendo deal of the early 90's.

And last try this...
On some of the Apple sites they have reported a bezel control system patented by Apple... Would be energy efficient if you were using the current eink displays.

Ho hum... Having a blast with the Reader!

yvanleterrible · 11-12-2006, 01:39 PM

It's kind of weird that a tecno savvy company like Apple has'nt caught up with eink.
We'll surely have an announcement of a product of some kind soon?
As for all other companies using B\W displays, like MP3 players, could get longer battery use by the use of eink!

Nightwing · 11-12-2006, 02:37 PM

True... But Apple will wait until all of the parts are in sync so to speak. Could be waiting until the color and or foldable epaper come to market.

jæd · 11-12-2006, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightwing

3) Why playback ACC { Basically Apples m4a audio format }? It does play unencrypted iTunes songs. It eats a bit more power than mp3. And with some work could maybe play encrypted iTunes?

ACC is not specifically an Apple format. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Audio_Coding

Nightwing · 11-12-2006, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jæd

ACC is not specifically an Apple format. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Audio_Coding

I know they use that as a base for their audio but not that common for a player. I know they are adding it to their players now.

jæd · 11-12-2006, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightwing

I know they use that as a base for their audio but not that common for a player. I know they are adding it to their players now.

Take a look of the Wikipedia article, espcially the number of audio players that can play aac files. It would be surprising if the Reader didn't feature it...

Nightwing · 11-12-2006, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jæd

Take a look of the Wikipedia article, espcially the number of audio players that can play aac files. It would be surprising if the Reader didn't feature it...

Cool.

arivero · 11-13-2006, 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yvanleterrible

...with eink this time, and usb, and SD and...

There is a Newtom emulator for ARM 5. Runs in Zaurus and Nokia 770, can be ported to eink if you have a lot of time and a Newton rom.

Newton itself was ARM 2 I believe, was it?

Laurens · 11-13-2006, 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yvanleterrible

The thing that prompted me to desire the comeback of Newton is mostly for good software like iTunes. Connect software is not up to par with the reader. I think iTunes is better than the iPod itself, what ever detractors think.

Well, I hate iTunes with a passion, but still love my iPod. (Thank God for the Winamp plugin.)

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yvanleterrible Reborn Paper User Posts: 8,616 Karma: 15446734 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Que Nada Device: iPhone8, iPad Air	No one else interested? Just the design of it could be interesting!

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Bob Russell Recovering Gadget Addict Posts: 5,381 Karma: 676161 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Device: iPad	I think it was before it's time. A shame it didn't catch on and continue to grow. I think there is a newton emulator, so you could probably do something like this with a UMPC. Don't hit me, but I think it's probably more of a nostalgic thing to want a Newton, and not a widespread marketable idea... despite the things it got right, modern versions of eBook readers and PDAs are probably better. If nothing else, they have support for things like e-ink and usb on the e-ink side, and wifi, applications written, etc. on the pda side. On the other hand, there's almost a universal cry for Apple to come out with a Tablet PC. And I think it would create a huge interest if they did an e-book reader, whether it was e-ink or other display technology. Maybe as an extension of their growing iPod line, which is already moving into multimedia capabilities.

11-11-2006, 04:40 AM	#4
Alexander Turcic Fully Converged Posts: 18,171 Karma: 14021202 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Switzerland Device: Too many to count here.	My guess: Apple is holding back because their gadget division clearly focuses on the mass market. And until e-books become a mass market, it's a looooong time to go (only my guess).

11-11-2006, 10:12 AM	#5
Snappy! Addict Posts: 260 Karma: 4256 Join Date: Feb 2006 Device: SHARP Zaurus C1000	Or they could do an iBod or iPok ... hmmm .... I assure you that when they finally do ... apple fans will act as though the very idea of ebook readers was invented by Steve Jobs and that it is heralding in a brand new paradigm. .... don't believe... just wait and see ... That aside, I think it can only be good news if apple join in the foray ...

11-11-2006, 11:40 AM	#6
yvanleterrible Reborn Paper User Posts: 8,616 Karma: 15446734 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Que Nada Device: iPhone8, iPad Air	The thing that prompted me to desire the comeback of Newton is mostly for good software like iTunes. Connect software is not up to par with the reader. I think iTunes is better than the iPod itself, what ever detractors think.

11-11-2006, 02:16 PM	#7
Nightwing Addict Posts: 303 Karma: 541 Join Date: Oct 2006 Device: Cowon A2 Dell x3i, Sony Reader & Eee PC!	Something been spinning around in my thinking... 1) Diddent Job's have the head of Sony on stage for one of the dog and pony shows? 2) Its a bit weird how limited parts of CONNECT kind of act like iTunes. Or have basic logic. ( could be a copy ) 3) Why playback ACC { Basically Apples m4a audio format }? It does play unencrypted iTunes songs. It eats a bit more power than mp3. And with some work could maybe play encrypted iTunes? Could it be either they were working on something and fell out or that something has not filter out yet. Its a pretty big stretch but have seen strange things in the past. Take the new apple hub being released next year for media and add the Reader to the mix. Or a combo flexible page reader or some other concept. A heavy battery that good for a day of music or longer for pages. A bit odd... Would not be surprise to see Sony and Apple were partner then split like Sony/Nintendo deal of the early 90's. And last try this... On some of the Apple sites they have reported a bezel control system patented by Apple... Would be energy efficient if you were using the current eink displays. Ho hum... Having a blast with the Reader!

11-12-2006, 01:39 PM	#8
yvanleterrible Reborn Paper User Posts: 8,616 Karma: 15446734 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Que Nada Device: iPhone8, iPad Air	It's kind of weird that a tecno savvy company like Apple has'nt caught up with eink. We'll surely have an announcement of a product of some kind soon? As for all other companies using B\W displays, like MP3 players, could get longer battery use by the use of eink!

11-12-2006, 02:37 PM	#9
Nightwing Addict Posts: 303 Karma: 541 Join Date: Oct 2006 Device: Cowon A2 Dell x3i, Sony Reader & Eee PC!	True... But Apple will wait until all of the parts are in sync so to speak. Could be waiting until the color and or foldable epaper come to market.

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