Kindle to utilize epub format in late 2022 - Page 25

hleo12 · 10-03-2022, 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jhowell

If they look something like:

Code:

text/part0004.html#3Q280-bb387bb408464af78b24389a790813fa

Then those are likely actually being produced by calibre during conversion from a Kindle format. See my prior post.

that's probably what's happening. I'm converting and reconverting to minimize the margins.

Although kinda weird though. Because if I run calibre's epub checker again it will tell me to fix those links.

jhowell · 10-03-2022, 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hleo12

that's probably what's happening. I'm converting and reconverting to minimize the margins.

You can avoid those TOC entries if you use the "KF8 to ePub" function of the kindleunpack plugin to convert AZW3 to EPUB instead of doing via calibre conversion.

JSWolf · 10-03-2022, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jhowell

You can avoid those TOC entries if you use the "KF8 to ePub" function of the kindleunpack plugin to convert AZW3 to EPUB instead of doing via calibre conversion.

But do you then have to make sure the ePub is free of errors? Every KF8 > ePub via KindleUnpack has errors that Calibre's error checker and epubcheck will flag.

jhowell · 10-03-2022, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf

But do you then have to make sure the ePub is free of errors? Every KF8 > ePub via KindleUnpack has errors that Calibre's error checker and epubcheck will flag.

It has worked for me.

JSWolf · 10-03-2022, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jhowell

It has worked for me.

Then shifting may be the solution to the problem of sending KF8 eBooks to Amazon to then send them back.

But really, why bother when you can just sync without shifting/emailing?

DNSB · 10-03-2022, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf

But do you then have to make sure the ePub is free of errors? Every KF8 > ePub via KindleUnpack has errors that Calibre's error checker and epubcheck will flag.

Interesting. If i use the ModifyEpub plugin to add/replace the cover on KindleUnpack generated epub, I will get errors due to a missing DOCTYPE in cover.xhtml. Otherwise, Sigil's builtin checker and EpubCheck don't seem to have any issues with either epub2 or epub3 output from KindleUnpack. I do have KindleUnpack's epub output version selector set to auto-detect so I will get epub2 or epub3 epubs.

Basically I have a very different experience from yours.

Jacques Q. · 10-04-2022, 04:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf

And Jacques could have his account shut down by Amazon without any notice.

Well, it is I who bought all the Kindles that are used with my account although it is mostly friends of mine who use them, so I guess there is not much Amazon can say about it.

Jacques Q. · 10-04-2022, 04:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jhowell

You can avoid those TOC entries if you use the "KF8 to ePub" function of the kindleunpack plugin to convert AZW3 to EPUB instead of doing via calibre conversion.

Please excuse poor untechnological me, but I see much of the discussion revolves about "TOC", and I don't know what it is. Would someone give a link where I can find what it means (Google only says "troubles obsessionnels compulsifs", which is certainly not what is meant...) and why they seem to be an issue ? Thanks a lot in advance.

BionicGecko · 10-04-2022, 04:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jacques Q.

Please excuse poor untechnological me, but I see much of the discussion revolves about "TOC", and I don't know what it is. Would someone give a link where I can find what it means (Google only says "troubles obsessionnels compulsifs", which is certainly not what is meant...) and why they seem to be an issue ? Thanks a lot in advance.

TOC in this context means Table Of Contents

They are an issue mostly due to the way Amazon expects them to be formatted. EPUBs typically allow a certain flexibility in how the TOC is structured, but Amazon has some constraints in place which will make them reject EPUBs which are normally accepted by other readers.

Jacques Q. · 10-05-2022, 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BionicGecko

TOC in this context means Table Of Contents

They are an issue mostly due to the way Amazon expects them to be formatted. EPUBs typically allow a certain flexibility in how the TOC is structured, but Amazon has some constraints in place which will make them reject EPUBs which are normally accepted by other readers.

Thank you for explaining.
Hanging on to the Send-to-Kindle with Mobis option while it lasts (in spite of the recent unpractical change whereby for instance it has become impossible to have ? or " in a title that are replaced by _ just like for PDFs), I haven't had to deal with that problem so far - though I'm sure this is going to come and plague me at some point.

JSWolf · 10-05-2022, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jacques Q.

Well, it is I who bought all the Kindles that are used with my account although it is mostly friends of mine who use them, so I guess there is not much Amazon can say about it.

You don't know that. I doubt anyone here really knows what Amazon can and cannot do.

Jacques Q. · 01-04-2023, 08:08 PM

Hello. So Amazon eventually implemented the possibility to send EPubs using SendToKindle a few days ago (in France that is, but surely this is global), although Mobis are still accepted.
BUT I guess it is no mere coincidence that, just a few days after that happened, when trying to open a (newly published, didn't try with older ones) e-book using the Kindle for PC reader, version 1.17, in order to transfer it to Calibre and do what I wanted with it, I just couldn't but was prompted instead to download the latest version - so I just got the book refunded.
I asked the very same question in another thread, but it may belong here as well : does this mean "the party's over" with the degrees of freedom one still possessed when using an older version of the Kindle for PC reader - like converting them to plain Mobi with no KF somethings or DRMs and retaining only that version ?

lkmiller · 01-05-2023, 09:04 AM

Seems to be the case with books just published this year and Kindle 1.17. But other methods of freeing them may still be available.

DNSB · 01-05-2023, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lkmiller

Seems to be the case with books just published this year and Kindle 1.17. But other methods of freeing them may still be available.

For now, Download and transfer via USB is still functioning but any book published after 2023-Jan-03 will give the PCMAC_126_Delivery_Error_Upgrade_PC if you attempt to download it with a version of K4PC less than 1.39. It was good while it lasted but Amazon has now closed that hole.

langshipley · 01-11-2023, 08:32 AM

Not sure if this is the place to ask this or if I need to open another thread for it. Now that Amazon has implement EPUB for Send-to-Kindle and will be discontinuing the MOBI format for that feature eventually,

(1) do I convert my files to EPUB2 or EPUB3? My EPUB output is currently set to EPUB2 as a default, but I'm wondering if I should set it to EPUB3 when I'm converting an older EPUB file or an AZW, AZW3, or MOBI file so that I can send it to my Kindle via email.

(2) is there a way to look at the metadata of an EPUB file in Calibre to check if it's EPUB2 or EPUB3? I can't seem to find how to do that.

Thank you.

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Convert Newspaperat the epub format to Kindle "Periodical" format	loic2000	Conversion	3	12-25-2020 11:16 PM
Calibre to utilize Mojave dark theme	MGlitch	Calibre	3	10-21-2018 06:55 PM
Calibre metadata - apps that utilize?	nushie	Calibre	3	03-15-2014 06:52 AM
Using Kindle format vs ePub format is like using a compiler vs winzip?	Julius Caesar	Workshop	1	09-01-2013 07:34 PM
iPhone Convert epub format to kindle for iPhone format. Is it possible?	thecyberphotog	Apple Devices	16	03-14-2013 01:04 AM

01-04-2023, 08:08 PM	#372
Jacques Q. Connoisseur Posts: 92 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2020 Location: Paris Device: quite a few Kindles...	Hello. So Amazon eventually implemented the possibility to send EPubs using SendToKindle a few days ago (in France that is, but surely this is global), although Mobis are still accepted. BUT I guess it is no mere coincidence that, just a few days after that happened, when trying to open a (newly published, didn't try with older ones) e-book using the Kindle for PC reader, version 1.17, in order to transfer it to Calibre and do what I wanted with it, I just couldn't but was prompted instead to download the latest version - so I just got the book refunded. I asked the very same question in another thread, but it may belong here as well : does this mean "the party's over" with the degrees of freedom one still possessed when using an older version of the Kindle for PC reader - like converting them to plain Mobi with no KF somethings or DRMs and retaining only that version ?

01-05-2023, 09:04 AM	#373
lkmiller Laura Posts: 1,300 Karma: 22770070 Join Date: Nov 2009 Device: Kobo Sage, Kobo Elipsa, Nook Glowlight Plus 7.8", Kindle Oasis 2	Seems to be the case with books just published this year and Kindle 1.17. But other methods of freeing them may still be available.

01-11-2023, 08:32 AM	#375
langshipley Connoisseur Posts: 62 Karma: 10 Join Date: Apr 2010 Device: Kindle 3, Paperwhite 2, iOS Kindle app	Not sure if this is the place to ask this or if I need to open another thread for it. Now that Amazon has implement EPUB for Send-to-Kindle and will be discontinuing the MOBI format for that feature eventually, (1) do I convert my files to EPUB2 or EPUB3? My EPUB output is currently set to EPUB2 as a default, but I'm wondering if I should set it to EPUB3 when I'm converting an older EPUB file or an AZW, AZW3, or MOBI file so that I can send it to my Kindle via email. (2) is there a way to look at the metadata of an EPUB file in Calibre to check if it's EPUB2 or EPUB3? I can't seem to find how to do that. Thank you.