02-01-2019, 04:13 PM | #16 | |
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Can you tell me for the sake of interest, how does the utility export all the distinct footnotes and associate them with a single book in Calibre, given that a book takes up a single row in the Calibre database? Does the plugin concatenate all the footnotes into a giant string and stick that value into a column? Just trying to visualize how you are handling this.... |
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02-01-2019, 05:45 PM | #17 | |
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02-01-2019, 08:16 PM | #18 | |
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Thanks for all your work on this, very cool. |
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It merges the annotations each time you do a fetch. And this should work for all devices supported by the plugin.
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02-02-2019, 01:16 PM | #20 |
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Thanks David. So at this time, on your 'roadmap' for the plugin, is something like a 2-way sync on the horizon? Meaning, not only that it fetches and merges comments from supported devices, but it would also sync the merged comments back to supported devices?
I assume that would drastically increase the complexity and also assume you have limited dev time on a voluntary project. Just interested to hear where it's going in the future.... Thanks. |
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At the moment, I don't have any plans to send annotations back to the devices. You are right about the complexity of code. But, the plugin is for multiple device types and can support apps. It would be impossible to send the annotations back to a Kindle or a tolino in a useful way. The real storage for the annotations is not usable on these devices. For a Kobo, it wouldn't be that hard, but would require storing a lot more information.
Any real changes for the plugin are a little on hold at the moment. There are major updates to viewer in calibre coming. At that time, I'll look at whether I can make the annotations viewable there. In the meantime, if you want to backup annotations for epubs, you can backup the contents of the "Digital Edititions/Annotations" directory. There will be a file for each epub that has been opened with the annotations in it. These can be restored to the device, or another Kobo, and the annotations will be read when the book is opened. |
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It's only actual user entered notes (annotations in paper sense) I want. I have learnt to make sure the TOC actually works before doing annotations on a book, otherwise the entire book is one "chapter". The Copy & Paste Kobo Utilities Annotation fetch is much faster than it used to be and was quick anyway. Could speed up be due to using an SD card for the books? The formatting is strange, but 4 global Search & Replace on the pasted text file makes it fine. I guess if I was doing a load of research bookmarks might be useful, but OTH actually making a quick note is better, so I'm sceptical how much use "plain bookmarks" are. Reading position seems only important for syncing different devices. It's only lost if the book is marked Unread, Finished or Replaced (I always remove and then Send to update a book). I've not had the Kobo lose a reading position. One bug it doesn't have! |
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I actively discourage use of the "Copy annotations for Selected Books" function in my Kobo Utilities plugin. It is ugly, something I put together when I was first learning about this, and if I could, would drop. Each time someone mentions they use it, I am surprised. I assume you were referring to "Fetch/Restore current bookmark" function, which is something I actively encourage people to use. Quote:
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The few search & replaces needed to format the copy & pasted text are trivial. Without this, I'd not be using the Kobo at all. I bought it for PDFs, but it's useless for scanned magazines (I've 100s of out of copyright) and larger format books. Only OK for small A5 size manuals. My use of the Kobo for proof reading & annotations probably has saved enough toner and paper to pay for two of them. The lack of useful Chapter name & percent on the Kindle makes it very poor for finding where the annotations belong unless a large piece of source is highlighted. Apart from the fact the Annotations Plug-in is a pain to use the text outside of Calibre compared to the Kobo Utilities. I've no interest at all in seeing bookmarks, highlights or annotations in Calibre. I read a lot. Maybe sometimes 4 to 14 hours a day. If it's reading for pleasure then it's simply put on the Kobo and read. Nothing ever copied back. If it's proofing, then I might read and annotate from breakfast time to bedtime. The Highlight selection gets really slow. I guess Kobo don't test for more than a minute or two. |
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It would be trivial to format in Calibre as below, BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER, it's really simple to reformat after copy/paste. You can see some source text is deleted and internal chapter label changed to Loc. Some novels don't hhave the word chapter in heading, or even numbers. Sample (The * or X means annotation edited in or ignored) Code:
Loc 10 Chapter 11: Tracking: 50.0% Src: They do, Freyja and * Note: That's true, Loc 10 Chapter 11: Tracking: 51.0% Src: and later me and said that she * Note: and me. Later she told me Loc 11 Chapter 12: Demigods: 51.0% Src: that night, Alice crept * Note: Del , Loc 11 Chapter 12: Demigods: 51.0% Src: was sure being Note: herself Loc 11 Chapter 12: Demigods: 51.0% Src: or a great great aunt. Note: Del a great Loc 11 Chapter 12: Demigods: 51.0% Src: hand was colder Note: seemed Quote:
I have tablets and laptops. Since forever (1998 anyway for laptops). LCD screens are ghastly for reading for hours. My 2002 Laptop was/is 1600 x 1200 and STILL better than new 1920 x1080 models for A4 due to height and it's totally non-reflective. Still best LCD I've ever used to read PDFs. I read eBooks on it too before my first eink eReader. I use a 2017 model laptop with Linux Mint to work on. I got a Kindle DXG on special offer from Amazon not long after my original paperwhite, which my wife got, and then my grandson when she got a PW3. I bought the Kobo Aura H2O at release because the SD card slot would solve PDF storage issue (not enough space on DXG). I bought it primarily for reading ebooks and proofing as the lack of touch made the DXG awkward. The resolution and 6.8" sounded feasible. Really it's fine for smaller format books and A5 manuals, but not for the 1000s of A4 service booklets and 100s of old UK magazines. The Sony large PDF eink are for drawing offices, etc, they need a special application (no mass storage mode) and don't do ebooks. Maybe you should research what users beyond ordinary readers need and outside of the bubble of mass market Kindle & Kobo. Really with 90% of ebook sales, non-Kindles will be niche or doomed. Regulatory failure. No, LCD or OLED tablets and laptops are not a solution for people reading for prolonged periods. I've tried. Maybe if they had properly matt screens it would help. Shiny is cheaper and looks better in the shop. Even so most need PSU to give anything like 10 hours use. |
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Ugly code and produces ugly results that I have no desire to fix.
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Do people suggest devices like the Sony you refer to? Yes, but they tend to be excluded quickly for exactly the reasons you stated: price, limited format support, limited software support. |
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02-06-2019, 08:42 PM | #28 |
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Hi David, I got to the point of importing comments from a .kepub file, and that seemed to work.
I'm not clear how I use the plugin now? I cannot get the imported comments to display in Calibre, either when viewing the individual book, or as a column when viewing all the books. Is there guidance on this somewhere? |
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The default column used is the comments. They should be at the end of the comments. I recommend using a custom column. You can choose or create a suitable column in the plugins configuration. |
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02-06-2019, 09:54 PM | #30 |
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Ok, then it's not just me. There may be a bug in the Kobo Forma fetch. It only fetches the latest comment, and skips the others.
ETA: It looks like you have to exit out of the book before you connect kobo to calibre and import. Then it grabs all the annotations. Is that a known item? Easy enough to do, just didn't realize I had to do that. Last edited by maximus83; 02-06-2019 at 10:05 PM. |
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