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Old 07-21-2017, 10:39 AM   #2281
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Sorry, my English is poor... I mean Lowantong can't flash the hotfix.
And I get confused about model lock again. When a device(not in that table) downgraded to its factory firmware, can I update a firmware that older than what is shipped with but newer than the factory one? If the answer is no, I understand the lock clearly. If yes, why not packaging images like Amazon? Just don't care about S/N, same device, same signed firmware.
Not in the table means it is not supported. Model lock means you have to do what is for that model, anything else will be rejected, deleted or just thrown out.

So what exactly are you wanting to do. If your model is not listed, we really cannot help you.
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Old 07-21-2017, 11:27 AM   #2282
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Sorry, my English is poor... I mean Lowantong can't flash the hotfix.
And I get confused about model lock again. When a device(not in that table) downgraded to its factory firmware, can I update a firmware that older than what is shipped with but newer than the factory one? If the answer is no, I understand the lock clearly. If yes, why not packaging images like Amazon? Just don't care about S/N, same device, same signed firmware.
People are far too human for that to work, even if it where technically possible.
Even the best of them can not be trusted to read and follow the directions.
Go look in the mirror for a handy example of that.

"Model locking" refers to the MODEL of the device, if it referred to the firmware version of the device, it would be called: "Version locking".
Technical English is funny that way, it means what is written, not what the reader desires.

You should NEVER try to install a firmware version older than what the model originally shipped with.
Amazon spent those $$$,$$$ developing the first firmware version for a specific model for a reason.
If they could have shipped the device with a version they already had, they would have done it.

WE DO package images like Amazon.
Amazon packages are model locked.
Our packages are model locked.
Amazon packages are cryptographically signed. (with their key)
Our packages are cryptographically signed. (with our key)
Both Amazon packages and our packages for years where both installed by the same Amazon provided installer (until the day MrPI became required).

For consumer firmware builds:
Just try to use an Amazon update package for a PW3 on your KV and see how far that gets you.
The package not being intended for the device will be deleted.
The only thing that will happen is you will have wasted your time and some electricity.

The "Factory-use-only" firmware builds are an exception.
They where built to be used only on the production line, for product testing.
They should NEVER have leaked out of the factory (but they did).
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Old 07-21-2017, 01:38 PM   #2283
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Thank you for patiently explained.
I totally understand now.
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Old 07-21-2017, 03:45 PM   #2284
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FW 5.8.9.2 on model 90C6 (KT2)

I was successfully able to upload the .bin file to my kindle but was unable to update it.

There is a note that says if you log back into your kindle after trying to update it and the file is gone then the FW version is not a compatible downgrade from the version I am on.

Just wondering if there will be a release that works with 5.8.9.2?

The one thing I want to jailbreak for is just to put an image of the book im reading as the screen saver.

You'd think they would build that in as a basic on the no-ads versions....

Any info would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 07-21-2017, 03:51 PM   #2285
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Old 07-21-2017, 04:03 PM   #2286
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I was successfully able to upload the .bin file to my kindle but was unable to update it.

There is a note that says if you log back into your kindle after trying to update it and the file is gone then the FW version is not a compatible downgrade from the version I am on.

Just wondering if there will be a release that works with 5.8.9.2?

The one thing I want to jailbreak for is just to put an image of the book im reading as the screen saver.

You'd think they would build that in as a basic on the no-ads versions....

Any info would be greatly appreciated.
At this point your only option for a JB is to use the serial port with the proper hardware and procedure. This requires opening the KT2 and risks damaging it if you use the wrong hardware or don't take sufficient care with its fragile bits.

Alternatively, if this is a recent purchase perhaps you could return it for an exchange and ensure that one does not have a chance to upgrade itself before you JB it.

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Old 07-21-2017, 04:46 PM   #2287
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I was successfully able to upload the .bin file to my kindle but was unable to update it.

There is a note that says if you log back into your kindle after trying to update it and the file is gone then the FW version is not a compatible downgrade from the version I am on.

Just wondering if there will be a release that works with 5.8.9.2?

The one thing I want to jailbreak for is just to put an image of the book im reading as the screen saver.

You'd think they would build that in as a basic on the no-ads versions....

Any info would be greatly appreciated.
Unless you want to take it apart, you are pretty much stuck with their screensavers.

As to a new jailbreak, as of right now, it is not looking good. Stay tuned for further updates and while you are waiting feel free to enjoy the rest of MR. We have kindles and Kobos and Androids too. We have Apples and Nooks. We even have food, drinks and Instant Pot down in the lounge. Also an Amazon Echo. We also have the latest mobile news and general discussions. If you are in the market for a new book or device check out our deals and freebies. If you run out of ideas on books to read, check out the reading recommendations.
So look around, stay awhile, play some games and if you like go introduce yourself. There is a forum for that too. For other shopping, check out our local flea market.

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Old 07-21-2017, 06:20 PM   #2288
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And, if you are a programmer and willing to make your kindle a guinea pig, then maybe YOU can be the one who finds a way to jailbreak with version 5.8.9.2. Everyone else doing such work has left (or died, or is completing a PhD).
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Old 07-22-2017, 12:13 AM   #2289
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Looks like I edited about the same time you posted this update. My post right above yours has how to re-package it, and i uploaded a copy.

Since I don't have an Oasis, I have no way to test it though.
Hi,

Where I can download the say uploaded copy?
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Old 07-22-2017, 12:49 AM   #2290
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Where I can download the say uploaded copy?
Post 2261 is where I put the bin file that I think should work on your GR oasis.

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh...postcount=2261
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Old 07-22-2017, 08:15 AM   #2291
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Hi,

Where I can download the say uploaded copy?
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Post 2261 is where I put the bin file that I think should work on your GR oasis.

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh...postcount=2261
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Thanks for your teaching.

I know my device's serial number not in the table, I just want to try.

I don't know how to re-package the 'hotfix' update_*.bin. Anybody can teach me?

Thanks again.
And if the re-packaged 'hotfix' loads, then bookmark that worked example of re-packaging for your device.

You will have to do the same to any package of ours with the update_*.bin name format that you want to use.

And if you do that, please start a thread on how you are supporting your device, and post the re-packaged packages as attachments to your first post as you make them / test them.
Starting with the tested 'hotfix' package.
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Old 07-22-2017, 08:20 AM   #2292
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Old 07-22-2017, 05:16 PM   #2293
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how i can force an OTA update?
after 1 day is still with the downgraded version (or is better don't update the kindle?)
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Old 07-22-2017, 05:27 PM   #2294
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after 1 day is still with the downgraded version (or is better don't update the kindle?)
Do step 8.
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Old 07-22-2017, 06:42 PM   #2295
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PW3 5.8.10: downgrade to factory-initial firmare is impossible.
On jail broken Kindle. PW3 5.8.10: downgrade to factory-initial firmware 5.7.4 is OK!
I did with the kterm and later I wrote a script for KUAL. It writes the file with the correct name to the root directory. SSH or kterm are not required.
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