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They are in fact, just poor design choices. Samsung clearly has (or at least, had) very poor designers. So poor that the overwhelming superiority of iOS prompted them to recommend they redesign nearly every aspect of their TouchWiz operating system to more closely resemble Apple's. That is what imitators and knock-off brands do. The only objective error it is possible for such a company to commit is to not imitate enough. Everything else is relative to who is being imitated. Quote:
Samsung Before: Apple: Samsung After: What an amazing coincidence. Shrug. At some point I have to recognize that it's not possible to have a discussion with someone who is not willing to admit what's obvious. Ten pages of these sorts of defences could only come from individuals with infinite free time and finite capacity for honesty. What I don't understand—and will never understand—is why you go to such lengths to contort yourselves into such self-evident misrepresentations of reality. What is the source of your fanatical loyalty to Samsung? Did Samsung take care of the family pet the last time you went on vacation? Did Samsung jumpstart your car during a snowstorm? How do (presumably) thinking individuals come to identify so completely with a company? Marketers the world over would like to know. Last edited by holymadness; 11-18-2012 at 09:18 AM. |
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When you are ready to declare yourself for something, e.g. "I do not believe Samsung's copying of the iPhone hurt iPhone sales in any way," then I would be glad to discuss your position with you. |
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11-18-2012, 09:41 AM | #618 | |
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And, to Graham: I just watched a couple of videos to refamiliarize myself with TouchWiz. I'm not seeing similarities that aren't also standard usage pretty much everywhere (eg, I've been using a grid of icons on my desktop for more than 20 years now, since my Amiga days) and which aren't actually Android usages rather than TouchWiz... Last edited by JD Gumby; 11-18-2012 at 09:45 AM. |
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I currently own no Samsung device -- or any of their electronic products even. I have no dog in this fight -- unlike you. And it shows. Oh, how it shows! So I have more objectivity than you. This is not just about Samsung and Apple. This is about the current patent wars that are detrimental to both the companies involved and to consumers. But, of course, to the close minded and "religious" fanatics, they can only see it from the Apple perspective. That's sad. But not a surprise at all. Do what you feel you need to do. But don't just talk. Walk the talk. --Pat |
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11-18-2012, 10:55 AM | #623 | |
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But let me ask you the question again in another way: 1) Many Apple users follow trends blindly and mindlessly, not thinking critically on their own. 2) Many Apple users are "Sh-----." Would statement 1 be OK, but 2 not? And, no, I meant to say without "objective" analysis. --Pat |
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11-18-2012, 10:59 AM | #624 | |
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I sincerely doubt you'd happily discuss anything with anybody. You've consistently refused to do so in this thread so far (hint; shrill ad hominem attacks are not what grown ups call discussion). |
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11-18-2012, 11:02 AM | #625 | |
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The patent wars have gotten out of hand. Hopefully the higher courts sort out the issue of design patentability as it relates to technology relatively soon. --Pat |
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