05-11-2019, 10:27 AM | #16 | |
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I'd give NOTHING to going to the public to someone on work experience. There isn't anything simple about sorting anyway and lots of traps for inexperienced. Don't forget it has to work for non-Roman alphabets, surnames names with spaces, accents. There are libraries. That's the HARDEST bit for new programmers, or experienced ones to a new language. What does the library REALLY do? |
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05-11-2019, 10:29 AM | #17 |
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Sorry, but you are drastically and dramatically overestimating. You are thinking it much more complicated than it needs to be.
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05-11-2019, 10:39 AM | #18 | |
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Why dramatize the problem with non-relevant problems? If Kobo (or their hired contractors) doesn't have a good simple sort algorithm by now, ... |
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05-11-2019, 10:53 AM | #19 | |
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Yes, I was probably being dramatic. But, it is not a simple task and would take a large enough effort that it could be hard to justify. |
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05-11-2019, 11:15 AM | #20 | |
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Major changes to the UI, adding Facebook support, awards, pocket, ... Those are significant; adding a simple sort for a new field, simple. |
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05-11-2019, 12:42 PM | #21 |
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What is the marketing benefit to Author sort?
How will this sell more content from the Kobo store? Remember side loading of content is not a priority of marketing. |
05-11-2019, 01:43 PM | #22 |
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I don't know about marketing value, but it apparently has some value. There is a sort by author under Books, and a whole new tab was added in My books just for authors.
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05-11-2019, 01:57 PM | #23 |
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John F, I'm confused about what you're proposing. Isn't the kobo already using an author sort with LN, FN as well as displaying the authors' names as FN LN on the My books authors tab? Or are you proposing that they allow us to select how the author names are displayed?
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05-11-2019, 02:30 PM | #24 | |
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I think they are using a single field for display and sorting (I am referring to Books under My Books.). And David's stance seems to indicate a single field. Or I may be mixing this up with another hardware vendor. I like how Calibre has Author and and Author sort and wish Kobo (and others), had similar behavior. At some point in the past for some reason, I made Author and Author sort the same in Calibre (LN, FN); I've gone through multiple hardware manfactures and many firmwares, so my memory is foggy. Rethinking it, I can live with the Kobo's current behavior and should probably look into more of Calibre's features for manipulating data when sending books. |
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05-11-2019, 02:45 PM | #25 |
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Well on my kobo the authors on the my books tab are sorted by last name. The names that are displayed are fn ln. So internally they're using ln, fn. But in order for that to work properly you have to have your authors in calibre set up so that it's fn ln, and calibre has another column, author_sort, where it uses the same heuristic as the kobo and they're stored as ln, fn in it.
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05-11-2019, 03:16 PM | #26 |
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Remember this community is not representative of the entire Kobo user base; it's skewed towards users who sideload content, not folks who buy content from the Kobo store and load it directly via the wifi connection.
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05-11-2019, 03:17 PM | #27 | |
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I just tried using an "Author" of 'Jake' and "Author Sort" of 'Kellerman, Jonathan' in Calibre. When I convert and transfer the book to Kobo and sort by Author, it displays 'Jake" as the author but it is sorted under the Js; If Kobo was using the "Author Sort", it should show up under the Ks. |
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05-11-2019, 03:34 PM | #28 | |
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Also, if you need to swap the last and first names yet again, get the Quality Check plugin for calibre; it has a thing that does just that, among lots of other useful things. |
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05-11-2019, 03:38 PM | #29 |
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Regardless of who this forums represents, or peceived marketing value, I would like the feature.
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