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Old 09-26-2021, 07:08 AM   #91
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So guys, I have traded in my Voyage which I bought at launch as the larger screen appeals to me. What I cannot decide is... which cover? Any thoughts on Leather versus Cork? Is the Cork there for Vegans or is it nicer.

I am tempted to pay for ads free so I can glimpse the cover of my book as I turn it on. Is the kids version any different or just a regular PW with a cover and charger bundled? In other words will it behave like an adult kindle if I got that.
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I have a Kobo Aura H2O with a 6.8" screen and I would not go back to a 6" screen.

Last month I also bought the previous version (i reverted to the version) of KOBO AURA H2O (2 editions).
https://fr.kobobooks.com/collections...IaAiqXEALw_wcB

IMHO one of the best readers of books in terms of contrast and sharpness of the font (Which is crucial for me. Warm light is also great)
The rubberized body and quality construction is just an extra bonus for me.
PS: I don't need a better processor or more RAM, Wi-Fi 5GHz to turn the pages of the book

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Old 09-27-2021, 11:00 AM   #93
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The Kindle wikipedia page has been updated and apparently the Paperwhite would have the same processor as the Oasis, double the RAM at 1GB. It matches what an infamous website has stated in one of their articles. I'm just wondering how they can be that certain?
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Old 09-27-2021, 11:06 AM   #94
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IMO, it's more likely this is based on a Mediatek chip than the processor in the Oasis. But what do I know?
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The Kindle wikipedia page has been updated … It matches what an infamous website has stated in one of their articles. I'm just wondering how they can be that certain?
Wikipedia is edited by random members of the public and controlled by an opaque clique.
They are never certain.
Original research isn't allowed.
Ideally the person editing cites a book or web page or a high profile bage can be reverted. Likely someone has simply quoted the "infamous website", or an author from it has updated Wikipedia.

Yet curiously on average it's no more inaccurate than the Britannica. Which has mistakes.
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I know the collaborative aspect of Wikipedia, but still, I'm surprised it has already been updated before the release of the Kindle and I suspect it might be based on the infamous website's article.
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I ordered the cork cover for 2 reasons : it seems to be a viable alternative to leather and it's water-resistant.
I went with Cork, too. Just...a change of pace. I have a boatload of leather covers and I thought the cork would make it more obvious. (I have so many devices, for the biz...)

I loved my Voyage. LURVED it. And then, the charging port just wouldn't charge. I tried to replace it (6 years later, to be fair) and eeeek!, they weren't making them anymore. So, idiot that I am, I got an Oasis, and God, I hate it.

For one thing, I'm a bony old thing, and the corner digs into my hand, the bottom fleshy part of the palm, something fierce. I don't want to hold it with two hands, dammit.

I would have needed this new device, probably, for testing anyway. BUT, I'm hoping it's a solid replacement for my LLLV (Late Lamented Loved Voyage).

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I went with Cork, too. Just...a change of pace. I have a boatload of leather covers and I thought the cork would make it more obvious. (I have so many devices, for the biz...)

I loved my Voyage. LURVED it. And then, the charging port just wouldn't charge. I tried to replace it (6 years later, to be fair) and eeeek!, they weren't making them anymore. So, idiot that I am, I got an Oasis, and God, I hate it.

For one thing, I'm a bony old thing, and the corner digs into my hand, the bottom fleshy part of the palm, something fierce. I don't want to hold it with two hands, dammit.

I would have needed this new device, probably, for testing anyway. BUT, I'm hoping it's a solid replacement for my LLLV (Late Lamented Loved Voyage).

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This new Kindle is Amazon's version of the Kobo Aura H2O. The main problem with the new Kindle is that it's running Kindle firmware.
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Old 09-28-2021, 04:21 AM   #99
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This new Kindle is Amazon's version of the Kobo Aura H2O. The main problem with the new Kindle is that it's running Kindle firmware.
But Amazon has over 90% of the English language ebook market. We need to test on Amazon eInk. Though I mostly read & entirely proof read on a Kobo Libra.
Also some people can't be bothered with Download to PC, import to Calibre, create ePub, usb copy. Many people with Kindles use WiFi (or cell) for Amazon download even though they'd be better off with Download to PC and usb copy.
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But Amazon has over 90% of the English language ebook market. We need to test on Amazon eInk. Though I mostly read & entirely proof read on a Kobo Libra.
Also some people can't be bothered with Download to PC, import to Calibre, create ePub, usb copy. Many people with Kindles use WiFi (or cell) for Amazon download even though they'd be better off with Download to PC and usb copy.
There are other shops to buy ePub. There is Kobo, Google, and eBooks.com. Also, Overdrive serves ePub. So there are plenty of sources for ePub.

I don't count Apple and B&N since they use different DRM.

But, if the code for the source ePub is simple enough, then there's really no reason to need to test on different Kindles.
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There are other shops to buy ePub. There is Kobo, Google, and eBooks.com. Also, Overdrive serves ePub. So there are plenty of sources for ePub.
I don't count Apple and B&N since they use different DRM.
Smashwords all DRM free ePub. Belinda Borrowbox is epub. Some Google and Amazon titles don't use DRM (Except KFX is all DRM).
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But, if the code for the source ePub is simple enough, then there's really no reason to need to test on different Kindles.
That's what you think!
KF7 only Kindles.
KF7 models that later got KF8
Kindles that always had KF8
167 dpi vs 300 dpi Kindles. There are some things (simple epub conversion) where the KK3 @ 167 dpi using KF8 is similar to the Kobo @ 300 dpi, but the 300 dpi PW3 is wrong!

Any existing style already tested on a kindle doesn't need tested with a new ebook from epub. But any new style or edit to a style needs tested.
We also check the Amazon retail downloads when a new/revised style is used in the epub. Amazon may not create the same KF7/KF8/KFX from the epub upload as Calibre creates.
We don't much care about KFX and only test an Amazon download.

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Meh. 6.8 isn't that much of an upgrade over 6". I couldn't recommend it as an upgrade to someone with a 6". The price is nice, but if your PW is perfectly functional, it's not worth it.

And "advanced" users you can't install koreader anymore. Better to go with a Kobo. Shame the 8" Forma is so pricey.
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Smashwords all DRM free ePub. Belinda Borrowbox is epub. Some Google and Amazon titles don't use DRM (Except KFX is all DRM).

That's what you think!
KF7 only Kindles.
KF7 models that later got KF8
Kindles that always had KF8
167 dpi vs 300 dpi Kindles. There are some things (simple epub conversion) where the KK3 @ 167 dpi using KF8 is similar to the Kobo @ 300 dpi, but the 300 dpi PW3 is wrong!

Any existing style already tested on a kindle doesn't need tested with a new ebook from epub. But any new style or edit to a style needs tested.
We also check the Amazon retail downloads when a new/revised style is used in the epub. Amazon may not create the same KF7/KF8/KFX from the epub upload as Calibre creates.
We don't much care about KFX and only test an Amazon download.
What he said ^.

And don't forget the "image larger than 50%, but not 100% wide," rendering glitches in PPWs, Voyages and whats-its from 2015-->>>???

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Well, I can! I think it’s the critical difference in an immersive reading experience. Nothing wrong with a 6” reader for out and about, but 6.8” I think really hits the sweet spot between evoking a real “page” and portability. And my own anecdotal evidence: I did a side-by-side with a 6” and a 6.8” screen to my sister, who could never quite get on board with 6”. Sold!

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The price is very nice, especially if you can do a trade-in. (Although if you’re not in a hurry, I think waiting on BF could be better still - but perhaps not, given how new the device is. Me, I always wait on a sale price. ) But as always, people have different needs and preferences.
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Well, I can! I think it’s the critical difference in an immersive reading experience. Nothing wrong with a 6” reader for out and about, but 6.8” I think really hits the sweet spot between evoking a real “page” and portability. And my own anecdotal evidence: I did a side-by-side with a 6” and a 6.8” screen to my sister, who could never quite get on board with 6”. Sold!

The price is very nice, especially if you can do a trade-in. (Although if you’re not in a hurry, I think waiting on BF could be better still - but perhaps not, given how new the device is. Me, I always wait on a sale price. ) But as always, people have different needs and preferences.
I'm sorry, what's "BF?"

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