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Old 09-25-2021, 06:43 AM   #16
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(Same with desktop usage in general. It's being DWARFED by mobile devices.)
Most casual home users that in the past bought a PC (or a laptop) now use a tablet. Webmail and browser and apps.
Desktop PC gaming is a niche now with Nintendo, MS Xbox and Sony PS dominating. Casual games on phones and tablets.

The iPhone users more likely buy an iPad. The Android phone users an Android Tablet (as all their apps will migrate for free as well as data).

Business mostly buy laptops. Tower PCs are very niche, outsold by the expensive inflexible All-in-one screens with a sort of laptop motherboard. A real laptop has a built-in UPS and even with a separate 24" 2K screen can cost less than an all-in-one. Then there are the "mini" Macs and PC, like a cost reduced laptop without screen, keyboard or battery; I think a Raspberry Pi makes more sense than those if you don't need Mac OS or x86-64 Windows (Oddly MS does have an ARM version of Windows for the Pi, but it makes no sense as the entire point of Windows is Corporate x86-64 programs).

Google's Chrome OS and Chrome book is a crippled Linux that can be used standalone but is meant for always on broadband and Google's Cloud. Now MS is bringing out their version of MS Surface/Windows as Cloud Windows HW for Azure. Both those are less good ideas than a real Laptop (Mac, Win1x or Linux – Mint with mate recommended).

Apple will gradually merge MacOS and iOS to have Mac in a Walled Garden now they have moved to ARM (Mac 68000, PowerPC, 32 bit Intel, Intel with 64 bit and then 64 bit only x86-64 Intel Mac OS before the ARM laptop).

MS doing ARM and x86-64 versions of Windows on Tablets was a failure because of legacy x86, legacy x86-64 and unlike Apple they can't force all the Application devs to use ARM and the users to buy new versions of all the Software. Though Rosetta for Power PC to Intel wasn't too bad.

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Old 09-25-2021, 08:02 AM   #17
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Getting way off topic. Maybe we can discuss that further in a discussion thread.
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Old 09-25-2021, 08:21 AM   #18
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Thank you so very much. It has been years since I used html and did online newspaper, teaching, etc. Can you suggest course or something I can take for refresher?
MR's Wiki has a bunch of mini-tuts about eBooks and ePublishing.

I like W3Schools reference pages for HTML/CSS. They help with understanding the basic coding. If you want to do something a little 'different' then I just use mr google and there are several websites that usually have the answer.

Of course, you always have the great people here at MR that can help... you'll get some great advice as well as a little opinion thrown in to spice things up!
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Old 09-25-2021, 09:05 AM   #19
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I like W3Schools reference pages for HTML/CSS. They help with understanding the basic coding.
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Of course, you always have the great people here at MR that can help... you'll get some great advice as well as a little opinion thrown in to spice things up!
Absolutely to both of those. I find W3Schools, Tex and Hitch invaluable.
Also the Calibre editor uses a different color/colour for unrecognised terms. Sometimes someone has typed it wrong (sometimes me) and sometimes people are trying to be too clever.

On ebooks I believe in KISS and not trying to replicate some paper book. Apps is the place to be "clever". Being too clever breaks websites and makes ebooks very limited to a particular tested platform.
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MR's Wiki has a bunch of mini-tuts about eBooks and ePublishing.
I'll have to look through those again, I haven't done that in a looong time.

A lot of the "How to Make An Ebook" stuff was written many years ago, and much of that information is a bit out of date. (Like Liz Castro's ol' ebook/website.)

Of course, the core, KISS + basic HTML stuff is all correct.

... but a lot of the surrounding EPUB-specific info may need updating. They'll be discussing:
  • older tools
  • ancient versions of Sigil/Calibre
  • ancient hacks/workarounds
    • Like remember those empty <span></span> around everything to get around stupid iBooks bugs?
  • ancient formats
    • Like Amazon's old, old MOBI on the original Kindle.
    • (Everything beyond the Kindle 3 uses KF8 or KFX now.)
  • [...]

And they may be missing newer EPUB3 stuff. Or not discussing the tweaks/enhancements/tools that have come over the years like:
  • Much easier Font Embedding/Subsetting
    • Now it's easily built right into Calibre!
  • All the Accessibility stuff
    • + validators like ACE
  • Sigil/Calibre Plugins!

There's better/faster workflows out there, but much of this information is scattered.

Eventually, my blog will be up and running and all this stuff will be gathered to the best of my ability (I KNOW I KNOW, lol).

But for now, all this stuff is spread in separate MR threads.

* * *

Usually, if you have ANY sort of issue in ebooks, you can do search this in your favorite search engine:

Code:
Your Problem Here Tex2002ans site:mobileread.com
Your Problem Here Hitch site:mobileread.com
and you'll find your answer.

Have a problem with "<ol> lists"? Type in:

<ol> lists tex2002ans site:mobileread.com

And boom, here's one of my answers from 2019. (Don't use <ol> in EPUB, very buggy. Hardcode your numbers.)

Have a problem with "soft hyphens"? Type in:

soft hyphens tex2002ans site:mobileread.com

32 hits over the years. (I even wrote another post all about why soft hyphens are awful a few days ago.)

* * *

If you can't find it with mine or Hitch's username in your search? (Not very likely!) THEN you can do a general search across the internet... but all the coolest ebook people are here!

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Of course, you always have the great people here at MR that can help... you'll get some great advice as well as a little opinion thrown in to spice things up!


A few months back, I actually hopped on webcam and did an "EPUB crash course" with anonlivros (he wrote that great Paper Book -> PDF Tutorial).

It was the first time I ever TAUGHT someone else live.

And, since his PDF tutorial was so good, I wanted to get him up to speed on the PDF->EPUB side of things.

Many tips/tricks were methods I've been using for 8+ years, but never actually spoke to anyone else.

Definitely made me think differently too, and I even came up with newer methods on the fly as I tried to reexplain things to him (since he was an EPUB noob).

... and you guys have secretly been seeing a lot of that in my posts within the past 5 months.

* * *

Anyway, that's why I offered katknott (or anyone else who's interested) the webcam thing.

I could take a look at that document and see what I can do. Or how I'd tackle it.

And then I could even show you Sigil/Calibre, explain the basics of EPUB, answer any questions, etc.

Eventually, this info will be solidified on my site... and it'll be the ultimate EPUB resource.

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Old 09-28-2021, 01:07 AM   #21
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