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Around the World in 80 Days by Jules Verne
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09-15-2020, 01:20 PM | #2 |
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A quick comment, with more to follow. I quite enjoyed this book, though there was racism present, especially in the portrayal of First Nations in the US. It wasn't, however, more than one would have expected from the time (and nationality) of the author, who could have had no first hand knowledge of the American West or its indigenous inhabitants.
My enjoyment of Around the World in 80 Days was greatly enhanced by Patrick Tull's narration of the audio book. |
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This book was my first book by Jules Verne. I knew of the very popular 20000 Leagues under the Sea and A Journey to the Centre of the Earth. However I was surprised to find out that his writing was so prolific and that this book was #11 in the Voyages Extraordinaires series. According to Fantastic Fiction there are 54 books in the series! I am curious to hear how this book compares to others by someone who has read them.
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09-15-2020, 04:06 PM | #4 |
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I read several of them in my youth, but I have no memory of them now. All my memories are of the movies!
One thing that caught me after also watching the movie from 1956 with David Niven and Cantinflas was how much the role of Passepartout has been increased in the film. This was, as I understand it, because Cantinflas was a huge international star who drove sales outside of just the US. Don't know, but seems plausible. The other thing I noticed was that the movie starts with a balloon journey. Which, of course, is a complete departure from the book. Overall, I was surprised by the quality of the picture from that quite old movie, which translated to HD quite well. |
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Thanks! We’ve been watching a lot of old movies this year so maybe I’ll check that out.
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I found the book quite entertaining; I listened to the Random House/Listening Library audiobook. A lot of my enjoyment came from Jim Dale's terrific narration (though for some reason it includes annoying sound effects). I think the translation of this version was quite good (Michael Glencross); it didn't seem as stodgy as the Gutenberg text I occasionally referred to.
The gimmicky end annoyed me; wouldn't the crossing of the International Date Line have thrown off all the train schedules as they traversed the U.S., such that they would have realized the discrepancy? (Not to mention that it's hard to believe Fogg hadn't taken it into account.) I expected the ending; possibly I read the book long ago (or it might have been a Classics Illustrated comic!). I know I saw the movie, though all I remember is Cantinflas's bullfight and a zillion cameos of Hollywood actors. |
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I found the ending to be a bit iof a deus ex machina.
Overall I like this. The one thing I didn't like was the summary of the chapter at the beginning of every chapter. Kind of gave away was was going to happen. I do remember the movie having a balloon journey. But that was not any part of the book. |
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I liked it. It was much lighter and easier than some of Verne's other work. I enjoy Verne much more when he lets his humour show, as he does here, and in "From the Earth to the Moon" (the first half of what is completed with "Around the Moon" - together called "The Moon Voyage").
There was some of the expected racism, sexism and classism - all coming together in the description our Princess Aouda: "from her manners and intelligence, would be thought an European." But no more than expected, it seemed to me. As to the dénouement, with Verne being a science fiction writer, the missing day was most likely the starting point and raison d'être for the story. As for the common criticism that is should have been so obvious... When in America, if Fogg saw a newspaper with what seems to be yesterday's date, is he necessarily going to question that? He is not familiar with America, so if he looked out the window and sees streets quieter or busier than might be expected for the supposed day of the week, how is he going to know it is unusual? And is he even going to look? Right from the start the author highlights how little interest Fogg has in being a tourist. Mostly Fogg locks himself away and pays little attention to what is going on outside. I thought the author was almost overdoing his hints in this regard, but then I already knew what was coming. A missing day seems so unlikely to modern readers, we who live by the clock and the day of the week, but back then? I thought it was played quite well. An astute reader may have picked up on the hints and been laughing up their sleeve at Fogg, and for the others the back story seems to me, if not perfect, then good enough. Last edited by gmw; 09-16-2020 at 12:28 AM. Reason: typos typos ... interruptions ... and more typos. |
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I read the Bantam Classics version from my library. Sounds like the book was better as an audioboook. |
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I don't know that it was better as an audio book, but it is the sort of book that lends itself to audio. There aren't too many characters to keep track of (try a Dickens sometime, or one of the Russians!), and good narrators actually enhances the flow and humour of the book they read. Of course a bad narrator... <shudder>
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I think it's not just that our concept of time has changed, but also the class system itself that has an impact on how the events might have played out back then. Passepartout does so much for Fogg that Fogg himself might never have had to confront an up to date calendar. Yes, Fogg was getting his passport visaed regularly, but how much attention would he have been paying to the ink smears? Especially by the time he reached America. He was probably chatting to whoever was in charge while some lackey took care of the details. He had obviously reviewed schedules before he left, but everything had to be left open. On arrival in San Francisco we are told that he determines the next train leaves at 6pm, there is no need to verify a date for today, Fogg thinks he already knows. (Or am I the only one that has been known to switch off when hearing stuff I think I already know ... oh dear, what a terrible admission. ) |
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I loved the book and Patrick Tull’s narration certainly enhanced the experience. I much preferred this book to Verne‘s Journey To The Centre of the Earth, the Moon books or Off on a Comet. The characters were entertaining types—if not always believable—and the story rattled along nicely. The ending did seem a bit lame because it isn’t really credible that the obsessively punctilious Fogg would have forgotten that the International Date Line would have caused him to arrive a day early. But there’s lots of fun on the way.
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This mistake is one of my pet peeves that would drop me out of a book. It's "a European".
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