Kindle 3rd Gen Experimental Browser Https no longer works on most sites.

Malcx · 02-01-2020, 12:10 PM

It's a 3g 3rd Gen Kindle - I occasionally use the experimental web browser but can no longer access most sites that use https. Google, wikipedia etc. They all give the same error "Web Browser is unable to establish a secure connection with this web site"

I can connect to https://www.amazon.com though so ssl is still working for some sites at least.
Non secure sites work fine.
It makes no difference if I am using wifi or 3g

Is this fixable? I suspect it is due to certificates expiring or some such? I'm running the latest 3.4.3 firmware...

NiLuJe · 02-01-2020, 12:16 PM

Check Amazon for Software Updates. There's been a couple of "service updates" (or some such) post 3.4.3.

(i.e., "the latest 3.4.3" doesn't mean much anymore, as there's something like 3 or 4 different 3.4.3 builds ;p).

Malcx · 02-01-2020, 12:28 PM

Thanks - where can I check for these?
There's no option on the device ("Update your kindle" is greyed out).

Yesterday I installed the version on: https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/custo...MQC26VQQMM8XSW but that hasn't resolved it

NiLuJe · 02-01-2020, 12:42 PM

Oh. My bad. Funky service updates were for earlier devices, not the K3

.

j.p.s · 02-01-2020, 02:02 PM

Maybe amazon certificate glitches have migrated from K2 and DX to K3.

montalex · 02-01-2020, 05:44 PM

I think it is the web sites that have changed, and the antiquated browser cannot load new versions of the website. It took me a long time to find a way into Gmail, but I finally did. Maybe if you go through Google you might find versions of the websites you seek, rather than using antiquated bookmarks?

stassk8 · 03-08-2020, 03:07 PM

at the end of 2019 wikipedia was still working.

term1nat0r · 01-05-2022, 03:24 PM

and? no solution to the problem? :-(

katadelos · 01-05-2022, 05:45 PM

Probably caused by an outdated SSL cert bundle, I have a feeling that this wouldn't be too difficult to solve but don't have a K3 to verify this

DNSB · 01-05-2022, 09:16 PM

A possible reason for being unable to access some websites is that many websites now require a minimum of TLS 1.2 to access a HTTPS page while no longer supporting HTTP connections other than to force a switch to a HTTPS connection.

Malcx · 01-07-2022, 12:03 PM

I never found a good solution, just hacked a quick proxy running on a server I run. (not secure or great).

Amazon did offer me 20% off a new device though - of course one without 3g :/

Eures · 01-13-2022, 05:46 PM

For my kindle keyboard I would like to try to install the certificates as explained in this thread:
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=254808

02-01-2020, 12:10 PM	#1
Malcx Junior Member Posts: 3 Karma: 10 Join Date: Feb 2020 Device: Kindle Keyboard 3rd Gen 3G	Kindle 3rd Gen Experimental Browser Https no longer works on most sites. It's a 3g 3rd Gen Kindle - I occasionally use the experimental web browser but can no longer access most sites that use https. Google, wikipedia etc. They all give the same error "Web Browser is unable to establish a secure connection with this web site" I can connect to https://www.amazon.com though so ssl is still working for some sites at least. Non secure sites work fine. It makes no difference if I am using wifi or 3g Is this fixable? I suspect it is due to certificates expiring or some such? I'm running the latest 3.4.3 firmware...

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02-01-2020, 12:16 PM	#2
NiLuJe BLAM! Posts: 13,477 Karma: 26012492 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris, France Device: Kindle 2i, 3g, 4, 5w, PW, PW2, PW5; Kobo H2O, Forma, Elipsa, Sage, C2E	Check Amazon for Software Updates. There's been a couple of "service updates" (or some such) post 3.4.3. (i.e., "the latest 3.4.3" doesn't mean much anymore, as there's something like 3 or 4 different 3.4.3 builds ;p).

02-01-2020, 12:28 PM	#3
Malcx Junior Member Posts: 3 Karma: 10 Join Date: Feb 2020 Device: Kindle Keyboard 3rd Gen 3G	Thanks - where can I check for these? There's no option on the device ("Update your kindle" is greyed out). Yesterday I installed the version on: https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/custo...MQC26VQQMM8XSW but that hasn't resolved it

02-01-2020, 12:42 PM	#4
NiLuJe BLAM! Posts: 13,477 Karma: 26012492 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris, France Device: Kindle 2i, 3g, 4, 5w, PW, PW2, PW5; Kobo H2O, Forma, Elipsa, Sage, C2E	Oh. My bad. Funky service updates were for earlier devices, not the K3 .

02-01-2020, 02:02 PM	#5
j.p.s Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,275 Karma: 98804578 Join Date: Apr 2011 Device: pb360	Maybe amazon certificate glitches have migrated from K2 and DX to K3.

02-01-2020, 05:44 PM	#6
montalex Fanatic Posts: 556 Karma: 1283268 Join Date: Mar 2010 Device: KindleDX,Kindle 4, Kindle Keyboard 3G	I think it is the web sites that have changed, and the antiquated browser cannot load new versions of the website. It took me a long time to find a way into Gmail, but I finally did. Maybe if you go through Google you might find versions of the websites you seek, rather than using antiquated bookmarks?

03-08-2020, 03:07 PM	#7
stassk8 Member Posts: 19 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2019 Device: kindle dxg, kindle pw3	at the end of 2019 wikipedia was still working.

01-05-2022, 03:24 PM	#8
term1nat0r Member Posts: 13 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jan 2012 Device: Kindle 3 SO	and? no solution to the problem? :-(

01-05-2022, 05:45 PM	#9
katadelos rm -rf / Posts: 219 Karma: 3333683 Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: United Kingdom Device: K5, KT, KT2, KT3, KT4, KV, PW2, PW3, PW4, PW5	Probably caused by an outdated SSL cert bundle, I have a feeling that this wouldn't be too difficult to solve but don't have a K3 to verify this

01-05-2022, 09:16 PM	#10
DNSB Bibliophagist Posts: 35,219 Karma: 145277352 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Vancouver Device: Kobo Sage, Forma, Clara HD, Lenovo M8 FHD, Paperwhite 4, Tolino epos	A possible reason for being unable to access some websites is that many websites now require a minimum of TLS 1.2 to access a HTTPS page while no longer supporting HTTP connections other than to force a switch to a HTTPS connection.

01-07-2022, 12:03 PM	#11
Malcx Junior Member Posts: 3 Karma: 10 Join Date: Feb 2020 Device: Kindle Keyboard 3rd Gen 3G	I never found a good solution, just hacked a quick proxy running on a server I run. (not secure or great). Amazon did offer me 20% off a new device though - of course one without 3g :/

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01-13-2022, 05:46 PM	#12
Eures Connoisseur Posts: 54 Karma: 66 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Italy Device: Kindle Keyboard, Paperwhite 4	For my kindle keyboard I would like to try to install the certificates as explained in this thread: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=254808