Anyone ever see PAGE numbers?

jswinden · 08-23-2011, 04:22 PM

I'm just curious if anyone has ever seen PAGE numbers rather than location numbers? I've read a lot of Kindle books since page numbers were supposed to have been enabled, but I've yet to find a book that has them. I assume the publisher has to enable them, so perhaps the books have to be very newly published. But at any rate I was just curious if anyone has ever seen them.

Thanks

TimW · 08-23-2011, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jswinden

I'm just curious if anyone has ever seen PAGE numbers rather than location numbers? I've read a lot of Kindle books since page numbers were supposed to have been enabled, but I've yet to find a book that has them. I assume the publisher has to enable them, so perhaps the books have to be very newly published. But at any rate I was just curious if anyone has ever seen them.

Thanks

Yes, press the "menu" key and "page x of y" should appear at the bottom of the page. It is not visible at all times. Any book with this line: "Page Numbers Source ISBN: xxxxxxxxxx" in the description has the page number file available. The page number files download automatically when the wireless is enabled.

DreamWriter · 08-23-2011, 04:46 PM

From what I've seen, very few Kindle books have page numbers. One that does is Darkest Child: A Novel by Delores Phillips. You probably know this, but you do have to press the Menu button in order to see the page numbers displayed.

Ron. · 08-23-2011, 04:57 PM

If the kindle book has page number it will list this in the details,
Page Numbers Source ISBN:

I was under the impression that all new books would have page numbers and it was over time being added to older titles. That does not seem to be the case, two new releases I bought did not have page numbers, though a couple weeks after release one of them did.

TimW · 08-23-2011, 04:57 PM

Quite a few of my books have page numbers but I don't think the indie books will often have them, if at all. If there isn't a hardcover edition, it definitely won't.

ucfgrad93 · 08-23-2011, 05:57 PM

I have seen them, but not in all of my books.

alansplace · 08-23-2011, 06:22 PM

i see them on most of my books of which ~90% are side-loaded mobies.

jswinden · 08-23-2011, 06:31 PM

Thanks for the replies. Yes I know to press Menu. I keep hoping that one of my new books will have page numbers rather than just location numbers. I definitely don't think it is as prevalent as Amazon thought it would be. Even pseudo page numbers would be much better than location numbers. Location numbers are too big to remember. For example, it is easier to remember you are on page 105 of 700 than it is location 2458 of 15046. Smaller amounts are easier to remember, at least for me. So i wish Amazon would come up with formula to estimate page numbers like ADE does. Perhaps divide the locations by 20 or 25. As long as they remain consistent among devices so you can easily find your position in the book, anything would be better than those large location numbers IMO.

DiapDealer · 08-23-2011, 06:38 PM

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Location numbers are too big to remember. For example, it is easier to remember you are on page 105 of 700 than it is location 2458 of 15046. Smaller amounts are easier to remember, at least for me.

Why on earth would you ever need to remember what location number you are on? That's what bookmarks and annotations are for.

jswinden · 08-23-2011, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DiapDealer

Why on earth would you ever need to remember what location number you are on? That's what bookmarks and annotations are for.

I read on two different devices and page/location syncing is rarely an option as I sideload my books after modifying them. When reading on my Android phone I prefer to convert to ePub and use FBReader because it is much better than the Kindle for Android app as it allows more formatting control and I can sideload my fonts.

RainingLemur · 08-23-2011, 07:06 PM

On some books it shows up, on others not so much.

DiapDealer · 08-23-2011, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jswinden

I read on two different devices and page/location syncing is rarely an option as I sideload my books after modifying them. When reading on my Android phone I prefer to convert to ePub and use FBReader because it is much better than the Kindle for Android app as it allows more formatting control and I can sideload my fonts.

You read the same book on two different devices even when the ebook in question can't/won't/doesn't automatically stay in sync? That's way too much work for me, man. If it can't sync... then I'm only reading that book on one device. That would just be painful.

Blossom · 08-23-2011, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jswinden

I read on two different devices and page/location syncing is rarely an option as I sideload my books after modifying them. When reading on my Android phone I prefer to convert to ePub and use FBReader because it is much better than the Kindle for Android app as it allows more formatting control and I can sideload my fonts.

I do the same thing. I convert to epub for my Andriod phone and mobi for my K3. The synch thing doesn't bother me. I usually stop reading at a chapter or I open the phone up and look for a key word to search for on my K3.

I use Mantano though not FBReader

DuaneAA · 08-23-2011, 10:35 PM

The current book I am reading, The Pharos Objective by David Sakmyster, is the first book I remember seeing it in. And it was very slightly annoying. I always start with the free samples and then when I find something interesting enough to buy, I note the location number at the end of the sample so I can jump there in the full book. So I noted the location number and did my usual thing and discovered this one had a choice of goto page or goto location and I picked the wrong one. Since the location numbers are so much larger, it jumped straight to the end of the book. I think I wasted at least 15 precious seconds of my life figuring what had happened and then re-entering the location I wanted.

Duane

JaneD · 08-24-2011, 01:50 AM

Few of my Amazon-purchased books have page numbers. But for side-loaded non-DRM books, I can get page numbers by converting them in calibre, then loading onto the kindle. (Even if it's already a mobi or prc, go ahead and convert to mobi, and you'll get page numbers.)

08-23-2011, 04:22 PM	#1
jswinden Nameless Being	Anyone ever see PAGE numbers? I'm just curious if anyone has ever seen PAGE numbers rather than location numbers? I've read a lot of Kindle books since page numbers were supposed to have been enabled, but I've yet to find a book that has them. I assume the publisher has to enable them, so perhaps the books have to be very newly published. But at any rate I was just curious if anyone has ever seen them. Thanks

08-23-2011, 06:22 PM	#7
alansplace Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,886 Karma: 464403178 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: 33.9388° N, 117.2716° W Device: Kindles K-2, K-KB, PW 1 & 2, Voyage, Fire 2, 5 & HD 8, Surface 3, iPad	most i see them on most of my books of which ~90% are side-loaded mobies.

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DreamWriter Books are brain food. Posts: 2,950 Karma: 4836916 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: U.S. Device: Paperwhite · Fire HD6/HD8/HD10 · Galaxy Tab A7	From what I've seen, very few Kindle books have page numbers. One that does is Darkest Child: A Novel by Delores Phillips. You probably know this, but you do have to press the Menu button in order to see the page numbers displayed.

08-23-2011, 04:57 PM	#4
Ron. Evangelist Posts: 448 Karma: 864744 Join Date: Mar 2011 Device: Kindle 3, LookBook, Nook Simple Touch	If the kindle book has page number it will list this in the details, Page Numbers Source ISBN: I was under the impression that all new books would have page numbers and it was over time being added to older titles. That does not seem to be the case, two new releases I bought did not have page numbers, though a couple weeks after release one of them did.

08-23-2011, 04:57 PM	#5
TimW Wizard Posts: 1,022 Karma: 6824104 Join Date: May 2011 Location: Southeastern Kentucky Device: KK3G, KPW1, Sony PRST1, Sony PRS350, iPod Touch 5G	Quite a few of my books have page numbers but I don't think the indie books will often have them, if at all. If there isn't a hardcover edition, it definitely won't.

08-23-2011, 05:57 PM	#6
ucfgrad93 Wizard Posts: 2,360 Karma: 9026681 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Colorado Device: Kindle Paperwhite 2nd Gen	I have seen them, but not in all of my books.

08-23-2011, 06:31 PM	#8
jswinden Nameless Being	Thanks for the replies. Yes I know to press Menu. I keep hoping that one of my new books will have page numbers rather than just location numbers. I definitely don't think it is as prevalent as Amazon thought it would be. Even pseudo page numbers would be much better than location numbers. Location numbers are too big to remember. For example, it is easier to remember you are on page 105 of 700 than it is location 2458 of 15046. Smaller amounts are easier to remember, at least for me. So i wish Amazon would come up with formula to estimate page numbers like ADE does. Perhaps divide the locations by 20 or 25. As long as they remain consistent among devices so you can easily find your position in the book, anything would be better than those large location numbers IMO.

08-23-2011, 07:06 PM	#11
RainingLemur Spork Connoisseur Posts: 2,355 Karma: 16780603 Join Date: Mar 2011 Device: Nook Color	On some books it shows up, on others not so much.

08-23-2011, 10:35 PM	#14
DuaneAA Connoisseur Posts: 95 Karma: 1139736 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Minnesota Device: Samsung Galaxy Note 3 & Kindle Fire HDX	The current book I am reading, The Pharos Objective by David Sakmyster, is the first book I remember seeing it in. And it was very slightly annoying. I always start with the free samples and then when I find something interesting enough to buy, I note the location number at the end of the sample so I can jump there in the full book. So I noted the location number and did my usual thing and discovered this one had a choice of goto page or goto location and I picked the wrong one. Since the location numbers are so much larger, it jumped straight to the end of the book. I think I wasted at least 15 precious seconds of my life figuring what had happened and then re-entering the location I wanted. Duane

08-24-2011, 01:50 AM	#15
JaneD Addict Posts: 322 Karma: 1057749 Join Date: May 2010 Location: LA, CA Device: Kindle Paperwhite 2013	Few of my Amazon-purchased books have page numbers. But for side-loaded non-DRM books, I can get page numbers by converting them in calibre, then loading onto the kindle. (Even if it's already a mobi or prc, go ahead and convert to mobi, and you'll get page numbers.)

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