Kindle comic converter gives very huge file sizes

rabe3ab · 12-13-2015, 09:35 AM

When I try to convert a folder of photos to mobi or epub using KCC I got a file which is way bigger than the folder I started with. It's about two or three times the size of the original folder. I keep the options on default.
Is there something wrong that I did?

eschwartz · 12-13-2015, 11:04 AM

Nope.

KCC uses kindlegen internally, and kindlegen creates dual-MOBI with both MOBI and AZW3 sections, as well as the source input.

KCC uses the option "-dont_append_source" but there is no way to avoid generating a dual-MOBI.
You can use KindleUnpack to separate the AZW3 and MOBI (and just keep the MOBI).

rabe3ab · 12-13-2015, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by eschwartz

Nope.

KCC uses kindlegen internally, and kindlegen creates dual-MOBI with both MOBI and AZW3 sections, as well as the source input.

KCC uses the option "-dont_append_source" but there is no way to avoid generating a dual-MOBI.
You can use KindleUnpack to separate the AZW3 and MOBI (and just keep the MOBI).

I tried KindleUnpack but it gave me two files (mobi and azw) which each of them has the same size of the mobi file I had

Notjohn · 12-14-2015, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by rabe3ab

I tried KindleUnpack but it gave me two files (mobi and azw) which each of them has the same size of the mobi file I had

With respect, I don't see how that's possible!

The size of the so-called "mobi" that the KDP conversion (or KindleGen or Kindle Previewer) produces doesn't have a whole lot to do with the size of the book that is delivered to the ultimate buyer. Why is the large size a problem? Are you worried about the 15 cents / MB download fee?

eschwartz · 12-14-2015, 10:11 AM

IIRC, images are only stored once, and accessed by both component sections. Sorry.

But there should be *some* savings.

...

If you say the split AZW3 or MOBI is still twice as big as your input files, that means the content itself has gotten bigger.
Perhaps the images were re-encoded?

eschwartz · 12-14-2015, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Notjohn

With respect, I don't see how that's possible!

The size of the so-called "mobi" that the KDP conversion (or KindleGen or Kindle Previewer) produces doesn't have a whole lot to do with the size of the book that is delivered to the ultimate buyer. Why is the large size a problem? Are you worried about the 15 cents / MB download fee?

Why are you automatically assuming that the OP wants to upload their ebook to the KDP?
Where has the OP said they are an author?
I would like to know if the KDP even supports complex books with comic formatting, I thought it and Fixed-Format required access to their large-publisher FTP channels.

rabe3ab · 12-16-2015, 03:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Notjohn

The size of the so-called "mobi" that the KDP conversion (or KindleGen or Kindle Previewer) produces doesn't have a whole lot to do with the size of the book that is delivered to the ultimate buyer. Why is the large size a problem? Are you worried about the 15 cents / MB download fee?

I really don't want to sell anything, I was just converting some comics to read on my kindle and noticed the file size increase

rabe3ab · 12-16-2015, 03:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eschwartz

IIRC, images are only stored once, and accessed by both component sections. Sorry.

But there should be *some* savings.

...

If you say the split AZW3 or MOBI is still twice as big as your input files, that means the content itself has gotten bigger.
Perhaps the images were re-encoded?

is kindle comic converter known to re-encode images or increase their size??

Hitch · 12-16-2015, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by eschwartz

Why are you automatically assuming that the OP wants to upload their ebook to the KDP?
Where has the OP said they are an author?

I'll stay out of that one.

Quote:

I would like to know if the KDP even supports complex books with comic formatting, I thought it and Fixed-Format required access to their large-publisher FTP channels.

Yupperdoodle, it most surely does. I have clients that have uploaded FXL, Kids' books, comic books, you-name-it. Non-FTP clients.

You do not need to be uploading via FTP to use Amazon's Kindle Comics Creator, nor to upload a FXL file of any kind. Yes, you can run into some issues, but the uploader is specifically looking for certain types of metadata indicating FXL, Comics, etc.

Hitch

eschwartz · 12-16-2015, 10:03 PM

Ah, my lack of KDP experience shows.

But they do stop you from using Print Replica?

Hitch · 12-17-2015, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by eschwartz

Ah, my lack of KDP experience shows.

But they do stop you from using Print Replica?

Oui. More accurately, they don't make the specs, etc., for PR available to we mere mortals. <snicker>. On a more serious note, WhiteGlove provides PR to Amazon clients. Just as they kept KTC under wraps for a long time, (essentially the same thing, actually better), but finally released it to the general public.

Hitch

AcidWeb · 12-17-2015, 02:08 AM

Kindle Comic Converter definitively should not be used to publish any e-books.

Yes. It produce hybrid MOBI/AZW3 file but images are stored only once.

Size increase is most commonly caused by enabled upscaling or HQ zoom.

Hitch · 12-17-2015, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by AcidWeb

KCC definitively should not be used to publish any e-books.

Yes. It produce hybrid MOBI/AZW3 file but images are stored only once.

Size increase is most commonly caused by enabled upscaling or HQ zoom.

I would point out, ever so politely, that it's an easy error for a visitor to these fora to make--that someone is using Amazon's program, Kindle Comic CREATOR, for a book to be published, rather than Kindle Comic CONVERTER, which is your program. When people type "KCC," without qualification, it's not out of the realm of reality for someone like notjohn to assume that they are using the official "KCC," and intend for the output to be published on Amazon.

Offered solely FWIW.

Hitch

AcidWeb · 12-17-2015, 03:15 PM

I admit that might be confusing. Abberation used by Kindle Comic Creator authors: KC2 is not used by anybody else...

rabe3ab · 12-17-2015, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AcidWeb

Kindle Comic Converter definitively should not be used to publish any e-books.

Yes. It produce hybrid MOBI/AZW3 file but images are stored only once.

Size increase is most commonly caused by enabled upscaling or HQ zoom.

I didn't use HQ zoom and the upscale is enabled by default

12-13-2015, 09:35 AM	#1
rabe3ab Enthusiast Posts: 38 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2015 Device: Kindle Paperwhite 3	Kindle comic converter gives very huge file sizes When I try to convert a folder of photos to mobi or epub using KCC I got a file which is way bigger than the folder I started with. It's about two or three times the size of the original folder. I keep the options on default. Is there something wrong that I did? Last edited by rabe3ab; 12-13-2015 at 09:38 AM. Reason: Typo

12-17-2015, 02:08 AM	#12
AcidWeb KCC Co-Author Posts: 845 Karma: 765434 Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Poland Device: Kindle Oasis 2	Kindle Comic Converter definitively should not be used to publish any e-books. Yes. It produce hybrid MOBI/AZW3 file but images are stored only once. Size increase is most commonly caused by enabled upscaling or HQ zoom. Last edited by AcidWeb; 12-17-2015 at 03:18 PM.

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12-13-2015, 11:04 AM	#2
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,422 Karma: 85397180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	Nope. KCC uses kindlegen internally, and kindlegen creates dual-MOBI with both MOBI and AZW3 sections, as well as the source input. KCC uses the option "-dont_append_source" but there is no way to avoid generating a dual-MOBI. You can use KindleUnpack to separate the AZW3 and MOBI (and just keep the MOBI).

12-14-2015, 10:11 AM	#5
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,422 Karma: 85397180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	IIRC, images are only stored once, and accessed by both component sections. Sorry. But there should be some savings. ... If you say the split AZW3 or MOBI is still twice as big as your input files, that means the content itself has gotten bigger. Perhaps the images were re-encoded?

12-16-2015, 10:03 PM	#10
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,422 Karma: 85397180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	Ah, my lack of KDP experience shows. But they do stop you from using Print Replica?

12-17-2015, 03:15 PM	#14
AcidWeb KCC Co-Author Posts: 845 Karma: 765434 Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Poland Device: Kindle Oasis 2	I admit that might be confusing. Abberation used by Kindle Comic Creator authors: KC2 is not used by anybody else...

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