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Old 01-25-2019, 03:42 PM   #1
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I been trying to buy my first kindle in the canadian amazon store. It been saying unavailable for at least 3 weeks. Twice I saw it as available but because unavaible again within minutes.

I talked to support and they gave me a very unclear answer.

Are the discontinued or is a new model coming?
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Old 01-25-2019, 03:55 PM   #2
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It shows as available on amazon.com. Also the "Compare Kindle E-readers" table on that page shows all three models (Kindle, Paperwhite and Oasis).

I looked on amazon.ca and I also do not see the basic model listed and when I look at the Paperwhite the comparison chart only shows the Paperwhite and Oasis.

Perhaps you are right and it is a sign of it being phased out. It is the only 8th generation device left in the Kindle lineup.

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Old 01-25-2019, 08:36 PM   #3
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Hopefully they don’t get rid of the no backlight. I had bought a paper white but returned it because it was affecting my sleep quality when doing reading before bed time.
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Old 01-25-2019, 09:04 PM   #4
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I been trying to buy my first kindle in the canadian amazon store. It been saying unavailable for at least 3 weeks. Twice I saw it as available but because unavaible again within minutes.

I talked to support and they gave me a very unclear answer.

Are the discontinued or is a new model coming?
I recommend the new paperwhite. The kindle basic has no light and screen hard to read. at least for me
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Old 01-25-2019, 09:08 PM   #5
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I recommend the new paperwhite. The kindle basic has no light and screen hard to read. at least for me
In a reply made 30 minutes before yours, it seems this exactly why the OP wants a basic, having returned the PW for that very reason
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Old 01-25-2019, 09:43 PM   #6
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I find my basic perfectly readable, you just need good light (as you would with a print book). In good light a front light confers no particular benefit and one could argue is a detriment because it puts another layer in front of the text.

It would be nice if they would at least upgrade the screen to Carta 1024x768 display (I believe it is still using Pearl) for slightly better contrast. It is still the lightest Kindle in the lineup.
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Old 01-25-2019, 09:44 PM   #7
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Hopefully they don’t get rid of the no backlight. I had bought a paper white but returned it because it was affecting my sleep quality when doing reading before bed time.
Note that unlike earlier models, it's possible to completely turn off the backlight on the PW4. I tested it before inside the closet. Both PW2 and PW3 still emitted light at the 0 setting while the PW4 was completely dark.
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Old 01-25-2019, 10:06 PM   #8
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Note that unlike earlier models, it's possible to completely turn off the backlight on the PW4. I tested it before inside the closet. Both PW2 and PW3 still emitted light at the 0 setting while the PW4 was completely dark.
Been a while since I looked at a PW, but I'm assuming the light guide layer means that even with the light off the screen on the basic probably actually looks clearer and has better contrast? Though I suppose the PW's have better resolution.
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Old 01-25-2019, 10:34 PM   #9
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Check stores that sells them. Best Buy Target are 2 that I can think of. Both sell them In Stores in the US
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Old 01-26-2019, 12:43 PM   #10
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If your sleep is being affected, maybe take a look at one of the ereaders with blue light reduction. Kobo seem to make the cheapest range of these.
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Hopefully they don’t get rid of the no backlight. I had bought a paper white but returned it because it was affecting my sleep quality when doing reading before bed time.
I have a kindle basic (previous generation) and since I got a paperwhite on sale during black friday haven't used the basic. For night reading amazon recommends setting the light low. Chances are that you may've set it too bright.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/custo...deId=201733330
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Old 01-26-2019, 05:28 PM   #12
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Been a while since I looked at a PW, but I'm assuming the light guide layer means that even with the light off the screen on the basic probably actually looks clearer and has better contrast? Though I suppose the PW's have better resolution.
Doesn't the Carta vs Pearl screen make more of a difference?
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Doesn't the Carta vs Pearl screen make more of a difference?
My personal experience is that with the frontlight off, a Pearl screen actually looks better than a Carta (aside from resolution, of course). With the frontlight on, even at low levels, it's vice versa.

Note that I've only used and compared various Kindles, not Kobos or any other readers.
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The Kobo Mini which I bought from an MR member (and gave to a friend) had amazing contrast: a very white background and clear text. It was totally unlit, which I thought a shame.
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The Kobo Mini which I bought from an MR member (and gave to a friend) had amazing contrast: a very white background and clear text. It was totally unlit, which I thought a shame.
The same with my 2012 black basic Kindle (non-touchscreen, with buttons). Of course its low resolution started to bother me, after I got the Voyage.
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