Report on new firmware? - Page 3

Abelturd · 07-05-2009, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by chlorine

No, and the people at bookeen won't give a release date for fear of being wrong again.

They can frickin keep their firmware. It's cosmetic changes they made to the firmware, that's what it is. We've been waiting 9 months for folders and working delete button? Ridiculous. At this point I totally lost interest in the new firmware, so I don't give a diddly squat about the release date. I'm done with B.

HarryT · 07-05-2009, 10:28 AM

Folders seemed to be the #1 priority for many people, so I'm sure that this release will make many people very happy.

Abelturd · 07-05-2009, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

Folders seemed to be the #1 priority for many people, so I'm sure that this release will make many people very happy.

I don't argue about that. Folders are definitely a nice feature (in this aspect they even beat Kindle), my statement was purely personal. I don't keep many books on my cybook so folders are not a necessity for me. But I was hoping I finally won't have to do the layout on every single book I read on cybook. Customizable margins could easily solve that. I guess I was hoping in vain.

YGG- · 07-05-2009, 10:38 AM

Chlorine seems to have done quite a bit of testing (many thanks to her for answering as she did) --I didn't have any time even to turn on my machine since yesterday... and won't have for the next few days (news on the 1500 books in my CyBook will be at the soonest next sunday I think) --I'll check on the French forum if any of the other "lucky ones" (i.e. updated) have shared their experiences, and let you know if they did.

YGG- · 07-05-2009, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Abelturd

I don't argue about that. Folders are definitely a nice feature (in this aspect they even beat Kindle), my statement was purely personal. I don't keep many books on my cybook so folders are not a necessity for me. But I was hoping I finally won't have to do the layout on every single book I read on cybook. Customizable margins could easily solve that. I guess I was hoping in vain.

No one knows that as of today.

Greg Anos · 07-05-2009, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by chlorine

I'm not sure how Project Gutenberg handles pictures.
I have here an html book that starts with a paragraph containing a small picture of the cover of the book. If I place the picture in the same folder as the book on my cybook, the picture is not shown.

Project Gutenberg puts all illustrations/pictures in a separate folder and then the HTML calls for the illustration from that folder as part of the HTML code. Since folders are now part of the firmware, the question is will their HTML parser actual do the HTML call to the other folder? It's done that way so their isn't a bunch of illustrations all over the folder with the book. The old HTML parser couldn't do it because there were no folders to call to.

I'd test myself, but the firmware is not yet available for download....

HarryT · 07-05-2009, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Ralph Sir Edward

The old HTML parser couldn't do it because there were no folders to call to.

No, you've always been able to create folders on the Gen3; all that happened before was that the Library application "flattened out" the view of them and put all the contents at the same level. I don't think that has anything to do with the lack of ability to display pictures in an HTML file - it's just that that the HTML parser is extremely basic and ignores all links, internal and external. Hence no picture support.

chlorine · 07-05-2009, 11:03 AM

I agree with HarryT, I think it's (at least) a problem with the html rendering.
I tested it with a document that called for a picture that was in the same folder as the html file and it did not work. If the html doesn't display a picture that's in the same folder, I don't see how it could display one that's in a different folder, so I'm pretty sure picture viewing will not work on PG's books.

Greg Anos · 07-05-2009, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

No, you've always been able to create folders on the Gen3; all that happened before was that the Library application "flattened out" the view of them and put all the contents at the same level. I don't think that has anything to do with the lack of ability to display pictures in an HTML file - it's just that that the HTML parser is extremely basic and ignores all links, internal and external. Hence no picture support.

If that's the case, that means no repairs to the HTML parser. As far as I'm concerned, if that is the case, then the Cybook is scrap as far as I'm concerned. But I'll have to verify it first.

chlorine · 07-05-2009, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by YGG-

I didn't have any time even to turn on my machine since yesterday... and won't have for the next few days (news on the 1500 books in my CyBook will be at the soonest next sunday I think)

Sorry to hear you have so much work, I hope you'll be over it in not too long.
On my side I must admit I was glad to have some time today to play with the new software and think of some nice folder structure to put my books in! (and happy to report here if people are interested

wallcraft · 07-05-2009, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Ralph Sir Edward

if that is the case, then the Cybook is scrap as far as I'm concerned.

There are about to be several EB-600 based devices released using standard Netronix firmware (Astak Mentor Lite, COOL-ER Classic and Elonex). It isn't yet clear if these will have folder support, but they will certainly have different DRM-free viewers than the Cybook in addition to mobile Adobe Digital Editions. Is it likely that firmware is interchangeable between EB-600's, as it is on Hanlin V3's for example? Early Gen3's were EB-100's, so this won't be an option for everyone. I'm sure that putting Bookeen firmware on a generic EB-600 would be a copyright violation, and I guess the same would be the case for generic Netronix software on a Gen3. The same is in principle the case with the Hanlin V3, but in that case no one seems bothered (copyright does not inherently restrict access, this is entirely up to the copyright holder).

YGG- · 07-05-2009, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by chlorine

Sorry to hear you have so much work, I hope you'll be over it in not too long.

Next Saturday *fingers crossed*

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On my side I must admit I was glad to have some time today to play with the new software and think of some nice folder structure to put my books in! (and happy to report here if people are interested

Ooooh yesss! By all means! Merci d'avance!
(et il faut qu'on se parle de ces scripts magiques

)

EowynCarter · 07-05-2009, 12:40 PM

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Working links in pdfs?

On the opus with epub version, yes. Not sure about gen 3, i don't have any a pdf to test with.

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Page numbers?

Yes for Epub. No for mobi.

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Working Delete button?

Yes

You can't whine about that anymore ah !

Terisa de morgan · 07-05-2009, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by chlorine

Also:
- the delete button works;

Vesper · 07-05-2009, 01:33 PM

How about lookup in mobi? Any changes?

DrS

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07-05-2009, 10:28 AM	#32
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Folders seemed to be the #1 priority for many people, so I'm sure that this release will make many people very happy.

07-05-2009, 10:38 AM	#34
YGG- Dry fruit Posts: 1,157 Karma: 1047086 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Paris, France Device: Bookeen Opus + HTC Desire HD	Chlorine seems to have done quite a bit of testing (many thanks to her for answering as she did) --I didn't have any time even to turn on my machine since yesterday... and won't have for the next few days (news on the 1500 books in my CyBook will be at the soonest next sunday I think) --I'll check on the French forum if any of the other "lucky ones" (i.e. updated) have shared their experiences, and let you know if they did.

07-05-2009, 11:03 AM	#38
chlorine Addict Posts: 276 Karma: 100000 Join Date: Jan 2009 Device: Kindle paperwhite 2	I agree with HarryT, I think it's (at least) a problem with the html rendering. I tested it with a document that called for a picture that was in the same folder as the html file and it did not work. If the html doesn't display a picture that's in the same folder, I don't see how it could display one that's in a different folder, so I'm pretty sure picture viewing will not work on PG's books.

07-05-2009, 01:33 PM	#45
Vesper Addict Posts: 205 Karma: 1133 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Serbia Device: Sony PRS-350, Cybook Gen3, Palm T\|X	How about lookup in mobi? Any changes? DrS

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