06-05-2010, 01:37 PM | #61 | |
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"General Discussions" and "Reading Recommendations" could still be used to discuss books. That wouldn't be affected. Signatures mentioning a book or three in any area would be just fine too. |
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06-05-2010, 01:50 PM | #62 | |
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06-05-2010, 02:21 PM | #63 | |
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1. It's easier for me, as a user, then having to choose my filtering or look for codes. If I'm looking to find a book to read, I can just go straight to Deals/Books instead of having to remember to set my filtering, and then have to change it when I want to find out if there's anything happening like that awesome O'Reilly sale a couple of weeks ago. 2. It's easier for the people posting, for much the same reason. They just pick the right forum and post, and don't even have to know about, let alone use, prefixes. Therefore, they -- especially the newer ones -- are more likely to get the right posts in the right places, which saves a lot of work for the mods. Nothing can be too easy for some users. Consider the fellow yesterday decided who the most appropriate way to ask for help with a problem with books on his PRS-505's SD card was by necroposting in a two-year-old discussion of .mobi DRM in the developer's section. Despite, y'know, the fact that his question had nothing to do with .mobi, DRM, or development. So the easier we can make things for the newbies -- and a fair number of the people promoting books are newbies and have no interest in being anything else -- the less tidying up will be required. Separate subsections are intuitive; prefixes require more thought and more effort. I would like to see a voluntary "DRM free" prefix, though, so I can go straight to those books. |
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06-05-2010, 03:00 PM | #64 |
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As if in cosmic reward for making any kind of comment regarding this issue, I am now ready to add another thread to the self-promotion offer pile. I’m going to go over to the Deals section right now and announce my latest ebook. It’s not free, but it’s only a $1.99, so I consider that a deal. If the Deals board was categorized as Worldwalker suggests, I would have placed it in the Book Deals sub-forum instead.
I will not put anything about it in the Writer’s Corner because I don’t participate enough in give and take with other writers here to justify that action. I also won’t start any threads in the Recommendations section because I feel that should be left to a reader not the writer. If there was a Self-Promotion board, I would also put it there, but it doesn’t yet exist. This was not meant as an attempt to place an advertisement here in the feedback section, but only as a demonstration of my personal thought process for promoting my book. I admit that I sometimes use MR for this selfish purpose, but I also believe that's why the Deals section was created. I hope this helps in any considerations toward adjusting the boards. |
06-05-2010, 03:21 PM | #65 | |
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I'm glad you won't be posting to the Reading recommendations section, and for exactly the same reason you gave. And since I do use this section, if you posted about your book in it, I'd have to hate you forever Well, until next week at least... |
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06-05-2010, 06:14 PM | #66 | |
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I'm really worried that over time this issue will clog up the MR boards. |
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06-05-2010, 06:22 PM | #67 |
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We could probably do some tags like that.
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06-05-2010, 06:33 PM | #68 |
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06-05-2010, 08:24 PM | #69 |
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News should be (at least in my opinion) news about the ebook industry, not about individual authors' books.
Admins? Can we get the Book Fair set up, and the Deals forum split done, before things go all pear-shaped? *puppy dog eyes* |
06-05-2010, 08:57 PM | #70 | |
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06-05-2010, 09:57 PM | #71 |
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EVERYONE would have to give a credit card when they join. Every time you sign on the computer would have to check if it's still valid and has enough for 5 or 10 fines (just in case they figure to blast us with spam).
Most of the time someone will join MR and them start promoting their book(s). Sometimes I don't think that they know they are doing anything wrong. Read the rules? That’s not in human nature. But we can remind them that there ARE rules and that they should read them. This is not a crisis. Some of us would like to see certain changes. Some are more vocal and positive on the changes that they want and some want no change. But if there are or aren't any changes I don't think that you'll see people deserting. Last edited by SameOldStory; 06-05-2010 at 10:00 PM. |
06-05-2010, 10:39 PM | #72 |
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well it would cut down on the video conversion software spammers... But i was thinking of a friendly reminder form a mod. They edit the post as held for moderation until the blatant ad is paid for. If they pony up $10 they can have their post back if they don't the post can read xxx_perosn is trying to place ads without paying for them. The authors would be taking a big hit to their rep if they spam and don't pay.
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06-05-2010, 10:42 PM | #73 | |
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Think about it in terms of sports. Imagine a sports forum with only one section. Mostly, it's full of baseball fans, dutifully glorifying and adulating the Red Sox, and everyone is happy. Then football fans start showing up, in increasing numbers, and righteously praising the Patriots. After a while, there's so much football talk going on that the baseball fans don't see a lot of baseball threads, so they don't come around as much. They start fewer baseball topics and don't respond as much to existing ones. Eventually they've all drifted away and there are only football fans there. So the forum has traded its baseball fans for football fans, which is not a good thing if it's supposed to be a general-interest sports forum; it needs them all. This could have been avoided splitting it into a baseball section and a football section, and then as needed adding a basketball section and so forth. That would allow the forum to keep its Red Sox fans, and add the Patriots fans, Celtics fans, Bruins fans, Revolution fans, and other right-thinking people (Yankees fans would, of course, be IP-banned). In other words, it's just basic forum management. When one particular category of discussion starts to dominate a section, you split it off into its own section so that it doesn't drown out the minority categories. Everybody wins. |
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