How do i deal with "calibre" tags in my css

user743 · 03-23-2014, 03:58 PM

When adding html files to calibre (portable 1.28 on Windows), as new ebooks. then converting them to azw3 to edit them. calibre adds many tags. (such as "<calibre p> <calibre class 1> <calibre class 2>".)

is there a way not to have "calibre" tags" added.
or is there a guide as to when calibre will insert each tag so i can properly create/edit my css file? (if it's in the calibre guide please tell me were)

mrmikel · 03-23-2014, 04:17 PM

Use the editor to create an azw3 it rather than converting it with calibre. The editor adds nothing.

eschwartz · 03-23-2014, 04:24 PM

when calibre converts an ebook, it consolidates all css into unique "calibre*" tags. That was Kovid's design decision, for better or worse. There is no way to get around it by converting, so as mrmikel said, use the editor -- it can edit azw3 as well as EPUB. Or you can use kindlegen.

Is it really a problem though? I assume EPUB will be your master format, what does it matter what the AZW3 looks like inside? You will always be editing the EPUB.

user743 · 03-23-2014, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrmikel

Use the editor to create an azw3 it rather than converting it with calibre. The editor adds nothing.

I don't understand, aren't you only able to edit azw3 and epub, not html.

PeterT · 03-23-2014, 05:46 PM

If you want TOTAL control over the CSS class names, don't let calibre convert the material. You can still use calibre, just avoid doing conversions with it.

Look at either using Sigil to create an ePub or the Calibre editor to create ePub or azw3 format file.

mrmikel · 03-23-2014, 09:04 PM

An epub is a collection of html files. Find one in the MR library and open it with Sigil or the Calibre editor. You will see the files and how they are organized and you can take a look at the CSS stylesheet too.

Create a blank book and import your html files, stylesheet and images. Work on it till you are happy. Use the Table of Contents Tools in either to create a TOC, or HTML TOC then save and preview in a target device. Note defects and fix, repeat.

user743 · 03-24-2014, 04:27 PM

where dose it say when each "calibre" tag is inserted? - if it's in the calibre guide please specify where.

eschwartz · 03-24-2014, 04:33 PM

It happens during the conversion output.

The calibre User Guide doesn't document the behind-the-scenes engines that power calibre.

PeterT · 03-24-2014, 06:04 PM

The calibre "tags" or classes are built for each book based on the markup already present in the book. There is NO rule saying calibre1 is always used for the main text, or calibre59 for a heading.

user743 · 03-24-2014, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrmikel

Use the editor to create an azw3 it rather than converting it with calibre. The editor adds nothing.

If i understand correctly, i should open the editor directly.
which file is should i open?
how do i create a "azw3 it" ("xxxx.azw3" - if i understand correctly)? can i simply change the file name in the editor?

theducks · 03-24-2014, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by user743

If i understand correctly, i should open the editor directly.
which file is should i open?
how do i create a "azw3 it" ("xxxx.azw3" - if i understand correctly)? can i simply change the file name in the editor?

the book editor (W7 x64) does not seem to allow changing the type in Save a Copy

PeterT · 03-24-2014, 10:20 PM

Why would the editor allow changing format on Save As? That's not the purpose of the editor; rather its designed to create / edit a file in azw3 OR epub format.

eschwartz · 03-25-2014, 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by user743

If i understand correctly, i should open the editor directly.
which file is should i open?
how do i create a "azw3 it" ("xxxx.azw3" - if i understand correctly)? can i simply change the file name in the editor?

Export the actual html pages from unpacking the EPUB. You can use the Unpack Book tool, with the shortcut key "U" (or add it to the toolbar, under Preferences ==> Interface ==> Toolbar) to get a folder with the html files. Then you need merely import those files into the current book.

You can also try kindlegen from Amazon, I believe they do not recreate the styles from scratch.

user743 · 03-25-2014, 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eschwartz

Export the actual html pages from unpacking the EPUB. You can use the Unpack Book tool, with the shortcut key "U" (or add it to the toolbar, under Preferences ==> Interface ==> Toolbar) to get a folder with the html files. Then you need merely import those files into the current book.

You can also try kindlegen from Amazon, I believe they do not recreate the styles from scratch.

It looks like you misunderstood. I'm starting with one html file, that was never part of a ebook.
i want to

edit it
add a css file
save it as a ebook (azw3).

adding it to a new empty ebook in cailbre, doesn't either work. because calibre gives me a error message that it's empty. (what is the point of adding a empty ebook if it stays empty. a bug?)

mrmikel · 03-25-2014, 08:51 AM

Open the calibre editor. File edit, Import files into book. Import stylesheet into book.
Add step here: Split file at chapters so it doesn't make reader run slow or barf altogether.
Save.
That's it.
You make a shortcut to the editor directly in windows using:
"C:\Program Files\Calibre2\ebook-edit.exe"

03-23-2014, 03:58 PM	#1
user743 Addict Posts: 243 Karma: 44444 Join Date: Mar 2014 Device: Kindle PW2 special offers removed by Amazon for FREE	How do i deal with "calibre" tags in my css When adding html files to calibre (portable 1.28 on Windows), as new ebooks. then converting them to azw3 to edit them. calibre adds many tags. (such as "<calibre p> <calibre class 1> <calibre class 2>".) is there a way not to have "calibre" tags" added. or is there a guide as to when calibre will insert each tag so i can properly create/edit my css file? (if it's in the calibre guide please tell me were)

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03-23-2014, 04:17 PM	#2
mrmikel Color me gone Posts: 2,089 Karma: 1445295 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Central Oregon Coast Device: PRS-300	Use the editor to create an azw3 it rather than converting it with calibre. The editor adds nothing.

03-23-2014, 04:24 PM	#3
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,422 Karma: 85397180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	when calibre converts an ebook, it consolidates all css into unique "calibre" tags. That was Kovid's design decision, for better or worse. There is no way to get around it by converting, so as mrmikel said, use the editor -- it can edit azw3 as well as EPUB. Or you can use kindlegen. Is it really a problem though? I assume EPUB will be your master format, what does it matter what the AZW3 looks like inside*? You will always be editing the EPUB.

03-23-2014, 05:46 PM	#5
PeterT Grand Sorcerer Posts: 12,166 Karma: 73448616 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Toronto Device: Nexus 7, Clara, Touch, Tolino EPOS	If you want TOTAL control over the CSS class names, don't let calibre convert the material. You can still use calibre, just avoid doing conversions with it. Look at either using Sigil to create an ePub or the Calibre editor to create ePub or azw3 format file.

03-23-2014, 09:04 PM	#6
mrmikel Color me gone Posts: 2,089 Karma: 1445295 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Central Oregon Coast Device: PRS-300	An epub is a collection of html files. Find one in the MR library and open it with Sigil or the Calibre editor. You will see the files and how they are organized and you can take a look at the CSS stylesheet too. Create a blank book and import your html files, stylesheet and images. Work on it till you are happy. Use the Table of Contents Tools in either to create a TOC, or HTML TOC then save and preview in a target device. Note defects and fix, repeat.

03-24-2014, 04:27 PM	#7
user743 Addict Posts: 243 Karma: 44444 Join Date: Mar 2014 Device: Kindle PW2 special offers removed by Amazon for FREE	where dose it say when each "calibre" tag is inserted? - if it's in the calibre guide please specify where.

03-24-2014, 04:33 PM	#8
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,422 Karma: 85397180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	It happens during the conversion output. The calibre User Guide doesn't document the behind-the-scenes engines that power calibre.

03-24-2014, 06:04 PM	#9
PeterT Grand Sorcerer Posts: 12,166 Karma: 73448616 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Toronto Device: Nexus 7, Clara, Touch, Tolino EPOS	The calibre "tags" or classes are built for each book based on the markup already present in the book. There is NO rule saying calibre1 is always used for the main text, or calibre59 for a heading.

03-24-2014, 10:20 PM	#12
PeterT Grand Sorcerer Posts: 12,166 Karma: 73448616 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Toronto Device: Nexus 7, Clara, Touch, Tolino EPOS	Why would the editor allow changing format on Save As? That's not the purpose of the editor; rather its designed to create / edit a file in azw3 OR epub format.

03-25-2014, 08:51 AM	#15
mrmikel Color me gone Posts: 2,089 Karma: 1445295 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Central Oregon Coast Device: PRS-300	Open the calibre editor. File edit, Import files into book. Import stylesheet into book. Add step here: Split file at chapters so it doesn't make reader run slow or barf altogether. Save. That's it. You make a shortcut to the editor directly in windows using: "C:\Program Files\Calibre2\ebook-edit.exe"

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