Buttons, what's the big deal? - Page 5

Cyberman tM · 09-14-2016, 04:43 AM

[edit2] I retract the following statement. Sweetpea did indeed say it before me.
I blame the search engine - I searched for "glove" and didn't get a result. Searching for "gloves" on the other hand finds results...

No one said it yet?

Gloves.

Hold the screen anywhere and nothing happens. Press the button and the page turns.

[edit]Unless it's an IR or responsive screen, of course.

Sweetpea · 09-14-2016, 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyberman tM

No one said it yet?

Gloves.

Hold the screen anywhere and nothing happens. Press the button and the page turns.

[edit]Unless it's an IR or responsive screen, of course.

I did!

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Originally Posted by Sweetpea

<snip>
Except when I'm reading in something called winter (though, the indications are that we won't get that anymore...) when you don't want to take your hands out of your gloves... IR would work then too, but I'd still prefer buttons in those cases.

Solicitous · 09-14-2016, 06:52 AM

Buttons keep my shirt closed....

I like buttons from the perspective of when pressing I know i have pressed it. With touchscreens you do not get any tactile feedback.

That said, on an ereader it makes little difference buttons or touch, but on devices where you are typing (ie smart phone with sms) it makes it (for me at least) very difficult.

theducks · 09-14-2016, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf

So if the page forward button breaks or wears out, what would you do then?

Quit buying cheap knock-offs

Modern buttons easily last over 100K clicks
My PEz (2011) buttons and rocker (mainly use for page turns) are fine
I can't say so for the markings. My acid skin kills those fast,
The transit cover is crumbling where my hands rest

The Battery is failing fast and while it is 'user replaceable', no one (google search) has fresh stock for a Hanlin V5.

Sweetpea · 09-20-2016, 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theducks

Quit buying cheap knock-offs

Modern buttons easily last over 100K clicks
My PEz (2011) buttons and rocker (mainly use for page turns) are fine
I can't say so for the markings. My acid skin kills those fast,
The transit cover is crumbling where my hands rest

The Battery is failing fast and while it is 'user replaceable', no one (google search) has fresh stock for a Hanlin V5.

I've the same problem with my BeBook Mini... The buttons still work perfectly, but the battery is really dieing...

fjtorres · 09-20-2016, 06:52 AM

No batteries for Hanlins? Bummer.
The Hanlins used standard Nokia phone batteries...
I gave mine away a few years back but I did get a replacement battery at the time. They were cheap.

Sweetpea · 09-20-2016, 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fjtorres

No batteries for Hanlins? Bummer.
The Hanlins used standard Nokia phone batteries...
I gave mine away a few years back but I did get a replacement battery at the time. They were cheap.

The 6" version did, the 5" version had some proprietary battery.

theducks · 09-20-2016, 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fjtorres

No batteries for Hanlins? Bummer.
The Hanlins used standard Nokia phone batteries...
I gave mine away a few years back but I did get a replacement battery at the time. They were cheap.

The V6 did
But the local Frys does not even carry a batteries for stuff much over 3YO
(I don't even see ones for my Motorola devices)

The V5 uses a battery with a lead. Astak got out of the reader game when the Price wars did away with the $200+ price for no frills Eink devices

Jeremy_Loweryp · 09-22-2016, 05:23 PM

My opinion has always been that the more gadgets in your car the more things there are that can break.

MikeB1972 · 09-23-2016, 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeremy_Loweryp

My opinion has always been that the more gadgets in your car the more things there are that can break.

And yet cars are far more reliable than 20 years ago

Unless you have an Alfa, of course, and the electrics stop working because of rain or Tuesday.

theducks · 09-23-2016, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeB1972

And yet cars are far more reliable than 20 years ago

Unless you have an Alfa, of course, and the electrics stop working because of rain or Tuesday.

Standard feature with Lucas Electric parts.

I went through 2 Dynamos on my Sprite before I put in (a bigger, used) one from a 3000

That is how to learn Auto repair. Rebuild the SU's, keep the lamps on and repair the gearbox. It was worth it as the car handled fantastic.

Alpha o · 09-23-2016, 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theducks

Standard feature with Lucas Electric parts.

I went through 2 Dynamos on my Sprite before I put in (a bigger, used) one from a 3000

That is how to learn Auto repair. Rebuild the SU's, keep the lamps on and repair the gearbox. It was worth it as the car handled fantastic.

I've still got the balancer for SU carbs. I had a Spitfire.

I've also got the feeler gauge for the points which used to close for no reason.

Speaking of buttons - I had to replace the body. Instead of doing the usual wiring to the actual switches, we toggled everything to the dashboard.
Car inspections said you have to have things working, they didn't say how in those days.

I miss the car.

grumbles · 09-24-2016, 12:24 AM

I have yet to have a button fail on any of my readers (and I now have a drawer full of them.)

And in my case, the ultimate reason for have buttons...

Holding my T3 in my left hand, turning pages with my thumb on the buttons while I eat nachos with my right!

Can't do that without buttons!

Poppaea · 09-24-2016, 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Katsunami

Spoiler:

See, guys and dolls, this is where the old paperbook came handy. One took a hardback and replaced the dustjacket with some dull classics jacket, so no one was the wiser.

JSWolf · 09-24-2016, 04:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grumbles

I have yet to have a button fail on any of my readers (and I now have a drawer full of them.)

And in my case, the ultimate reason for have buttons...

Holding my T3 in my left hand, turning pages with my thumb on the buttons while I eat nachos with my right!

Can't do that without buttons!

Sure you can. Just hold the T3 slightly higher up and use your left thumb to swipe the screen. I used to do that with my T1.

09-14-2016, 04:43 AM	#61
Cyberman tM Evangelist Posts: 439 Karma: 2248782 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Austria Device: Inkbook Prime; Icarus Illumina;ImcoV6l;EB600;Kobo	[edit2] I retract the following statement. Sweetpea did indeed say it before me. I blame the search engine - I searched for "glove" and didn't get a result. Searching for "gloves" on the other hand finds results... No one said it yet? Gloves. Hold the screen anywhere and nothing happens. Press the button and the page turns. [edit]Unless it's an IR or responsive screen, of course. Last edited by Cyberman tM; 09-14-2016 at 06:20 AM.

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Solicitous Wizard Posts: 1,434 Karma: 1525776 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: TAS, Australia Device: Astak Pocket Pro (Black), 2 x Kindle WiFi (Graphite), iPod Touch 4G	Buttons keep my shirt closed.... I like buttons from the perspective of when pressing I know i have pressed it. With touchscreens you do not get any tactile feedback. That said, on an ereader it makes little difference buttons or touch, but on devices where you are typing (ie smart phone with sms) it makes it (for me at least) very difficult.

09-20-2016, 06:52 AM	#66
fjtorres Grand Sorcerer Posts: 11,732 Karma: 128354696 Join Date: May 2009 Location: 26 kly from Sgr A* Device: T100TA,PW2,PRS-T1,KT,FireHD 8.9,K2, PB360,BeBook One,Axim51v,TC1000	No batteries for Hanlins? Bummer. The Hanlins used standard Nokia phone batteries... I gave mine away a few years back but I did get a replacement battery at the time. They were cheap.

09-22-2016, 05:23 PM	#69
Jeremy_Loweryp Junior Member Posts: 6 Karma: 2059998 Join Date: Sep 2016 Device: lg	My opinion has always been that the more gadgets in your car the more things there are that can break.

09-24-2016, 12:24 AM	#73
grumbles Addict Posts: 238 Karma: 1500000 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Toronto Device: Pandigital Novel (Black), T-2 and 3, Nexus 7	I have yet to have a button fail on any of my readers (and I now have a drawer full of them.) And in my case, the ultimate reason for have buttons... Holding my T3 in my left hand, turning pages with my thumb on the buttons while I eat nachos with my right! Can't do that without buttons!

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