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Old 02-05-2023, 12:07 PM   #1
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epub3 with mathML / mathjax

Hi,
I have a book in epub3 format with what I think mathML mathematical script.
Is there a way to read it on my android tablet?

If not is there a way to convert it to pdf. I have tried calibre. Calibre renders it superbly with mathjax in its reader, but whey I try to print it or convert it seems that it does not use mathjax to render the mathematical script making the pdf the same as reading without mathjax.

perhaps my settings are off but I found no infromation in the manual about turning mathjax on for pdf converstion.

So right now I'm at a loss about what to do and I'm open for all suggestions.
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Old 02-05-2023, 12:22 PM   #2
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Very few apps and almost no ereaders fully support epub3. I never use epub3, so I've not tested any of these:

Readium on Android and maybe a readium plug-in for Chrome
Most recent version of Adobe Digital Editions (Maybe iOS, Android and Windows?). Earlier versions are epub2 only.
ASTRI-Bee on Android
Infinity on Android
SkyEpub
Gyan ePub Reader

Apparently many supposedly epub3 apps don't do fixed layout or are still beta.

You can also try conversion to kepub and the kobo app for android (with regular epub it uses an old ADE).
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Old 02-05-2023, 12:24 PM   #3
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See also the wiki here which lists apps:
https://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/EPub_3
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Adobe Digital Editions version 4.0
AZARDI - for Windows, Macs, and Linux. Currently the best coverage
iBooks - for iOS devices. [Now Apple Books]
Kindle [app on] Fire - Spotty coverage using KF8
KITABOO - For ios, android, windows, mac, and online.
Readium™ is a project of the International Digital Publishing Forum (idpf) and supporters, is an open source reference system and rendering engine for EPUB® publications and is targeted at ePub 3. Currently this is an app for Google Chrome browsers
Lektz eBook reader - for Chrome browser, iOS, Android
Advanced ePub3 reader - from Helicon Books, only available for Android, iOS, and online.
Android reader open source.
Menestrello a free reader that supports media-overlays for simultaneous reading and listening to audio books. For iOS and Android.
Gitden Reader supports both flowing and fixed layout ePub. Available for iOS and Android.
The iBooks - for iOS devices and Kindle app on Fire using KF8 likely only work well with ebooks from Apple or Amazon respectively.

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Old 02-05-2023, 01:58 PM   #4
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FYI: The Gitden Reader or the Readium R2 reader might be a good choice for Android, the Bluefire Reader for iOS, and the Thorium Reader for Linux, Windows, and MacOS Desktops.
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Very few apps and almost no ereaders fully support epub3. I never use epub3, so I've not tested any of these:

Readium on Android and maybe a readium plug-in for Chrome
Most recent version of Adobe Digital Editions (Maybe iOS, Android and Windows?). Earlier versions are epub2 only.
ASTRI-Bee on Android
Infinity on Android
SkyEpub
Gyan ePub Reader

Apparently many supposedly epub3 apps don't do fixed layout or are still beta.

You can also try conversion to kepub and the kobo app for android (with regular epub it uses an old ADE).
Is Pocketbook for Android able to handle ePub 3?
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Old 02-05-2023, 02:02 PM   #6
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See also the wiki here which lists apps:
https://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/EPub_3

The iBooks - for iOS devices and Kindle app on Fire using KF8 likely only work well with ebooks from Apple or Amazon respectively.
Why is Kindle in the list as it does not in any way handle ePub 3. A conversion is not ePub 3.
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Old 02-05-2023, 08:14 PM   #7
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Koreader supports MathML. So does Adobe digital editions. Pocketbook doesn't support MathML. Lots of apps and readers pick and choose what part of the spec they implement so some do things like vertical writing but don't do MathML, some do MathML but don't do vertical writing, most leave out the media bits.

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Thorium is the reference epub reader, try if it works for mathML.
https://www.edrlab.org/software/thorium-reader/
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Thorium handles mathml but Thorium is a Desktop reader not a mobile Android reader as the op requested. The same people creating Thorium have a related Readium R2 reader that does have an Android installable package. Even older Readium R1 based e-reader works with mathml.
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Old 02-07-2023, 09:38 AM   #10
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See also the wiki here which lists apps:
https://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/EPub_3

The iBooks - for iOS devices and Kindle app on Fire using KF8 likely only work well with ebooks from Apple or Amazon respectively.
Apple Books works quite well with side-loaded epub3 files: so far, I haven't found any problems with them (but I haven't tested it with MathML though). It does have issues with proper sorting them, but once you've opened them, they behave liked they should.
MapleRead is another iOS app that works well with epub3 books as well (at least, popup footnotes are supported)
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