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Old 09-15-2012, 10:40 PM   #226
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Old 09-19-2012, 11:44 AM   #230
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Old 09-19-2012, 12:30 PM   #231
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what damages?
Sorry. Perhaps damages not the right word.

Apple had effect on Samsung that they wanted. Shot across bow.

The horses are out of stable with phones, but they will think hard about copying new products (non-phones) apple brings to the market in the future.

Samsung copies -- is their business practice.

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Japanese companies have beaten rivals to the market with hardware innovations like flat-panel televisions and high-end mobile phones. Samsung waited for the others to test the market, and when it determined the time was right, it joined the fray to cash in.

Samsung’s strategy was to build something similar to another company’s product but to make it better, faster and at lower cost. When it pounced, it flooded the market with a wide range of models that were constantly updated with incremental improvements at a speed its rivals found hard to match — a strategy best illustrated by its smartphone business. Heavy investments have not been a problem; it once secured low-cost loans from a government-controlled banking sector friendly to big businesses and now draws on its own coffers, which are sloshing with cash.
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Japanese companies have beaten rivals to the market with hardware innovations like flat-panel televisions and high-end mobile phones. Samsung waited for the others to test the market, and when it determined the time was right, it joined the fray to cash in.

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When it pounced, it flooded the market with a wide range of models that were constantly updated with incremental improvements at a speed its rivals found hard to match — a strategy best illustrated by its smartphone business. Heavy investments have not been a problem; it once secured low-cost loans from a government-controlled banking sector friendly to big businesses and now draws on its own coffers, which are sloshing with cash.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/03/te...ef=technology&
You know what? Take those 2 sentences that I marked in bold and change Samsung for Apple. According to wikipedia Samsung made its first mobile phone in 1988. The one who waited until others tested the market was Apple.

Apple took features from other manufacturers and made the iPhone.
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Ok...but they didn't make A phone.

They made a phone (in its entirty) that was unlike any on market at the time. That is what Samsung pounced on. We know this.
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Ok...but they didn't make A phone.

They made a phone (in its entirty) that was unlike any on market at the time. That is what Samsung pounced on. We know this.
That's debatable. It had similarities to the LG Prada; a touch screen with minimalistic looks with rounded corners. And they didn't make the phone in "its entirety", they built upon what was already there - like everybody else.
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That's debatable. It had similarities to the LG Prada; a touch screen with minimalistic looks with rounded corners.
Didn't have an OS anything like iOS though. Thats what in its entirety means.
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Right. Because Apple based their OS design on Palm OS, the market leader at the time.
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Didn't have an OS anything like iOS though. Thats what in its entirety means.
Ah, so now it is not "its entirety" but the OS only? And as the previous posts indicates, not even that was original. What's left?
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Right. Because Apple based their OS design on Palm OS, the market leader at the time.
It's amazing how often this is ignored. I used a series of wonderful Palm handhelds for years before the iPhone. Candy bar form factor, touch sensitive, screens of colourful icons arranged in a grid, app store, all the standard functionality.

You could even get add-on hardware to turn some of them into phones.

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