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Old 08-01-2017, 01:55 PM   #16
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That's not always possible. I like a tight line height and a subscript/superscript would change the line height. Nothing can be done about it.

It's like a larger first letter on a Kindle with KF8. That first line is going to have the line-height different from the rest of the lines and nothing can be done about it.
line-height: 0; seems to work just fine for me for subscript/superscript/raised caps. I don't care how KF8 works.
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Old 08-01-2017, 03:46 PM   #17
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Does kindle not support "float" for those large initial letters??
Float doesn't help with correct sizing of drop caps. (Which should be sized from the cap height of the first line to the base line of the last line of the drop.)
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Old 08-05-2017, 11:11 PM   #18
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line-height: 0; seems to work just fine for me for subscript/superscript/raised caps. I don't care how KF8 works.
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If you are dealing with an environment in which you have one font for the drop, and another for the body--which, in turn, can be changed--there's really no good way to address this in eBooks. Every different font has different line heights, x-heights, ascenders, descenders and so forth. Thus, whilst in print you can adapt the two, to get a perfect drop, in eBooks, you're screwed.

I would add that whilst you can go bonkers and write a BOATLOAD of media queries for KF8 and KF7, to work around this SOMEWHAT competently, it taks hours to do for each book, if you're using different drop and body fonts, or a different font for the drop, yadda, yadda, yadda.

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Also to note that even simple Large Initial (Up) Caps will increase the line-height of that first line, so that it will often display with a larger gap than the other lines.

Even if you do set line-height to zero, and height: 0. This happens to me if I use a font size any larger than 130%. That feels very restrictive!


Why oh why does it feel like they want to render in the old vanilla-plain-text of 20 years ago???

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Old 08-09-2017, 05:25 AM   #20
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Amazon's ignoring of line-height to reduce the line height is just wrong. It makes some eBooks look awful when you get a large first letter. Some books do this not only at the first paragraph, but at the first paragraph after a section break.
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Amazon's ignoring of line-height to reduce the line height is just wrong. It makes some eBooks look awful when you get a large first letter. Some books do this not only at the first paragraph, but at the first paragraph after a section break.
This was an EPUB3 thread, in the EPUB forum. I felt quite confident ignoring any possible Kindlebook quirks, with regard to the specs. In my EPUB readers, the line-height trick works for me with raised caps and (sub|super)scripts. But maybe that's because I don't typically use many different fonts (and only use a 3-4em font-size for raised-caps). If the spacing is still different after that, then it's too subtle for my eyes to care about. But regardless ... I see now that pdurrant's wishes were to not have to diddle the line-height attribute when dealing with (sub|super)scripts in the first place.
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