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Old 09-14-2012, 12:47 AM   #361
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"Apple's bag of tricks may be close to being empty"

This iPhone 5 release doesn't bode too well for Apple's medium term future. Now they are having a hard time stopping the tide of competing, more advanced and more attractive, phones. They have milked this design too long.
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"Apple's bag of tricks may be close to being empty"

This iPhone 5 release doesn't bode too well for Apple's medium term future. Now they are having a hard time stopping the tide of competing, more advanced and more attractive, phones. They have milked this design too long.
Sounds like what they said about the 4S...

Edit: Looks like they said it in the part you left out:

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Of course, Apple will laugh all the way to Fort Knox — and have the last laugh
Kinda invalidates headline

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Old 09-14-2012, 01:14 AM   #363
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Kinda invalidates headline
Not really.
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Not really.
Sure it is.

The author says:

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The success of the iPhone 5 hinges on the company’s ability to create a buzz among the great, unwashed, platinum card-wielding masses.

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Apple will laugh all the way to Fort Knox — and have the last laugh

Which is it? Either way, the author is admitting this trick works - just look at the last quote.
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Old 09-14-2012, 01:23 AM   #365
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Sure it is.
Which is it? Either way, the author is admitting this trick works - just look at the last quote.
There is no which is it, since the headline and your quotes have different subjects. You have been hero worshiping on this forum too long today, it is time to take a break so you try to make more sense.
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Old 09-14-2012, 01:26 AM   #366
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There is no which is it, since the headline and your quotes have different subjects. You have been hero worshiping on this forum too long today, it is time to take a break so you try to make more sense.
"Please take a break from proving me wrong."
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Old 09-14-2012, 01:33 AM   #368
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"Please take a break from proving me wrong."

OK, you do that so well yourself that I have no problem taking a break. Besides there is actually a life outside the door today, and I intend to enjoy it.

You and that other one have such easy trigger points to hit that the challenge is beginning to wear thin for this morning anyway.
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Old 09-14-2012, 02:04 AM   #369
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The main issue is that the updates are just incremental updates. There's nothing earth shattering from one model to the next (in most cases). I'm only upgrading because my iPhone is almost worthless. Any iPhone before the iPhone 4 should be upgraded.
Surely whether or not it "should be upgraded" depends on the requirements of the individual user, doesn't it? I'm not going to upgrade my iPhone 4 because it does everything I need a smartphone to do.
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Old 09-14-2012, 02:23 AM   #370
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Sounds like what they said about the 4S...

Edit: Looks like they said it in the part you left out:



Kinda invalidates headline
Did you forget to read the last sentence:

"And Apple is entirely correct. People do snatch up these phones to satisfy their egos and self-esteem. Apple is a company built, in part, on marketing status symbols, not merely technological gizmos and gadgets.

But, just the same, if enough folks find the phone doesn’t live up to the hype, this launch could dog Apple."

To sum it up, yes they are making plenty of money now. But medium to long term it doesn't look to good, now that they appear to have run out of new ideas to impress people. Fortunes change quickly in this business.
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Fortunes change quickly in this business.
Just ask Nokia about that.
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Old 09-14-2012, 02:41 AM   #372
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Apple aren't targeting iPhone 4 or 4S owners, sure some hard core technologists and fanbois will leap at the opportunity for a new device. The primary market segment are those iPhone 3 and 3 GS owners whose contracts are running out. Add to that those who bought Android phones two years ago and the iP5 will look plenty enticing. I bought the HTC Desire, and if I had been on a contract (I use prepaid) I would surely be tempted to take a look (but I'm happy with my Galaxy Note). Most phone owners are not entrenched in either camp, they just want something that works, doesn't drop the signal, comes with some interesting features to keep you occupied while commuting, and has a decent screen to look at. There are plenty of alternatives available from Android makers, but I don't think I have encountered an iPhone user who complains about the phone (operator? Different story). Combine hype, advertising (all operators are launching campaigns now) and user endorsement, and I don't think Cook or the others in Cupertino are particularly worried.
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Hey, is Apple putting out a new phone? I hadn't heard...
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