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Old 11-26-2017, 07:57 AM   #16
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Sigh. If you are determined to manufacture problems where none exist, there's nothing anyone can do to help you. Let me repeat, you are never going to be able to use the server as a backend for the GUI, what you do about it, is entirely up to you. I'm afraid I have wasted enough time on this.
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Old 11-26-2017, 07:58 AM   #17
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Oh and just by the way, if you think that not having a user logged in while no-one is present somehow provides you with some meaningful security, I have some shares in a Nigerian oil company I want to sell you.
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Old 11-26-2017, 02:14 PM   #18
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You might set up a Calibre (non-admin) user logon with rights to the Library

Then Use the task scheduler to start Calibre using that ID.
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Old 11-26-2017, 04:08 PM   #19
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Setting up the computer to log in on boot means leaving it logged in when no one is present, and that's a huge security weakness. And it assumes that there is only userid on the computer.

If my wife or kids need to use the machine, they either need to use the same login, which defeats the whole purpose of having separate logins, or they logout and log in as a different user, which shuts down Calibre.
I get up in the morning, start our Windows computer, log in to my windows account, starting calibre(and GUI server) and then lock the screen. If I forget, my account will automatically lock the screen after ten minutes. This leaves the login screen accessible and allows for users switching accounts.

My husband then logs into his account when he gets up, leaving my account still logged in and the calibre server still running. If a child later uses the computer then he or she switches to their account leaving all other accounts as they are.
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Old 11-26-2017, 11:14 PM   #20
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My husband then logs into his account when he gets up, leaving my account still logged in and the calibre server still running. If a child later uses the computer then he or she switches to their account leaving all other accounts as they are.
And when your husband tries to run calibre?
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Old 11-27-2017, 05:27 AM   #21
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And when your husband tries to run calibre?
Each user has their own calibre environment
You can't run against the same Library (same problem a Network share causes)
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Old 11-27-2017, 09:22 AM   #22
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Each user has their own calibre environment
You can't run against the same Library (same problem a Network share causes)
That defeats the purpose - and shows why Calibre-server works as a server and running Calibre-GUI doesn't.

Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the work that went into Calibre, and I fully understand why past design decisions might make getting the GUI to work with a running instance of the server, the way the command-line apps do, more work than is justified.

And I'm fine with shutting down the server when I run the GUI and starting it up again when I am done. As Kovid said, it's something that can be scripted and made automatic.

What I don't understand are these assertions that the GUI can be run in place of the server.

It simply can't.
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Old 11-27-2017, 09:40 AM   #23
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What I don't understand are these assertions that the GUI can be run in place of the server.
Not instead, both. My UC: I use the GUI for editing at a library and the content server for browsing another library, and check series, authors and so on. Both at the same time. I know it's not the most usual use of a server, but it has made much easier my library cleaning.
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Old 11-27-2017, 10:00 AM   #24
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And when your husband tries to run calibre?
Non-issue, if he wants a book he can download it from my Calibre Server using the web browser (or more likely asks me to put it on his Kobo). I maintain the family's ebook library.
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Old 11-27-2017, 11:14 PM   #25
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That defeats the purpose - and shows why Calibre-server works as a server and running Calibre-GUI doesn't.

Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the work that went into Calibre, and I fully understand why past design decisions might make getting the GUI to work with a running instance of the server, the way the command-line apps do, more work than is justified.

And I'm fine with shutting down the server when I run the GUI and starting it up again when I am done. As Kovid said, it's something that can be scripted and made automatic.

What I don't understand are these assertions that the GUI can be run in place of the server.

It simply can't.
Have you considered hosting it on a cheap VPS rather than your home machine?
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To make sure I understand...

What the OP wants to do is essentially what used to be called 'briefcase mode', right?

Calibre and Calibre Server do not do this? I do not have Calibre server installed yet I've been thinking about putting it on my Drobo or ASUS). I've got a small e-book library of only about 5K books.

Everyone in my family has their own e-book collection. I am the only one starting to use Calibre.

With respect to Kovid, its his product. He can absolutely do whatever he wishes with it so I'm not going to argue about whether or not a usecase is edgecase or not. I only want to make sure I do not go down a blind alley because of an assumption.
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Calibre and Calibre Server do not do this? I do not have Calibre server installed yet I've been thinking about putting it on my Drobo or ASUS). I've got a small e-book library of only about 5K books..
If you have Calibre installed, then the Server is there; just waiting to be configured (at minimum: enabled)

Or were you referring to porting it to your NAS?
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Putting it on one of the NAS's. Its kind of an amorphous blob of a concept in my head. Which is why I asked the question about whether I understood the OP or not. And further questioned my own assumptions.

I suppose I envisioned it working something like Notes Server of Yore (tm) or DevonThink with DevonThink-to-go.
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After all this, I think I'll just stick to calibre 2.x
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After all this, I think I'll just stick to calibre 2.x
I love that calibre is open source and that if I really felt like it I could just fork the code and do whatever I want. You could definitely use 2.x and if you find anything you want missing take it from later code.

Of course I am too lazy to even open the github because I am a consumer-wanker. The people who develop this are absolutely the best people in the world. Open source developers are heroes!
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