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penty · 09-17-2007, 07:51 PM

Read our notes delphidb96, that's a planned feature.

MikeF74 · 09-17-2007, 07:52 PM

I don't see a problem where if the device auto suspends after about 30min of no button presses (if not playing music). Waiting the extra 30s for it to come out of resume is a small price to pay for improved battery life. It should come out when pressing any button, not just the power button. Ideally, it would know which button brought it out of suspend so that action can be taken once the system is ready. Some indicator would be necessary to explain the wait, but otherwise keep the text on the screen until the system is back up. Definitely don't want to see any boot imagry.

If some people always need it "at the ready", for example a salesman using it for quick reference to show a client, then there should be a menu option to disable auto-suspend.

JSWolf · 09-17-2007, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by delphidb96

Of course, if it's turn off/ turn on cycle takes you back to the main menu, it could be somewhat frustrating. In such a case, having a sleep/suspend mode which takes you back directly to where you were reading would be a nice feature - one which, in version 0.91 (beta) I sorely miss.

Derek

Other then the book format being different (BBeB vs Mobi) and the screen being Vizplex, what is better about the Gen3 then the PRS500?

MikeF74 · 09-17-2007, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

Other then the book format being different (BBeB vs Mobi) and the screen being Vizplex, what is better about the Gen3 then the PRS500?

I like the simplified, cleaner interface with fewer buttons. The Sony just looks so busy and intimidating. Whereas the Cybook looks like something you can just pick up and start reading with. This helps, because I usually end up proselytizing neat technology to friends and family.

With the faster Vizplex screen, I'm surprised Sony didn't do away with the 1-10 buttons for the PRS-505 in favor of arrowing around.

JSWolf · 09-17-2007, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeF74

I like the simplified, cleaner interface with fewer buttons. The Sony just looks so busy and intimidating. Whereas the Cybook looks like something you can just pick up and start reading with. This helps, because I usually end up proselytizing neat technology to friends and family.

With the faster Vizplex screen, I'm surprised Sony didn't do away with the 1-10 buttons for the PRS-505 in favor of arrowing around.

If I am at menu item #1, I can just pres 9 and go right to it without having to down down down down down down down down enter. That makes it fairly easy to navigate the menus.

guguy · 09-17-2007, 08:30 PM

Both interfaces have avantages and drawbacks, and when the PRS-505 will
be out it will be the main difference between the gen3 and the reader
(that, and the price in favor of the reader).

Ok, the Cybook can read Mobipocket files but the mobi drm has been
cracked, so...

JSWolf · 09-17-2007, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by guguy

Both interfaces have avantages and drawbacks, and when the PRS-505 will
be out it will be the main difference between the gen3 and the reader
(that, and the price in favor of the reader).

Ok, the Cybook can read Mobipocket files but the mobi drm has been
cracked, so...

And so has LIT. So there now just as much source material for the Sony as the Cybook as far as DRM free material goes as long as you are willing to convert.

delphidb96 · 09-17-2007, 09:34 PM

Penty,

*WHICH* is a planned feature? Sleep/suspend mode? Battery-level indicator within an ebook? Changeable header content? Or all of the above?

Derek

Quote:

Originally Posted by penty

Read our notes delphidb96, that's a planned feature.

delphidb96 · 09-17-2007, 09:38 PM

Well, *I* prefer the controls - I'm always bumping one of the 0-9 function keys on the PRS500. I prefer the ability to choose font families - and eventually be able to load my own. I prefer being able to choose from nine different font sizes - sometimes I don't have the booklight, nor my reading glasses, and being able to nudge up to just the right larger font size is a blessing. I prefer the noticeably lighter weight. I'm going to rummage around for the food scale so I'll be able to tell you the exact weight difference.

And as I learn more about it and updates come my way, I'll point out more. I'm taking notes right now...

Derek

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Other then the book format being different (BBeB vs Mobi) and the screen being Vizplex, what is better about the Gen3 then the PRS500?

JSWolf · 09-17-2007, 09:39 PM

With the goto page function within a book, I no longer have the bump the number button and go to some other page as an issue.

delphidb96 · 09-17-2007, 10:51 PM

Good point. As I said, I've left my Sony 'stock'. Mom doesn't like these 'upgrades' - wouldn't even *consider* letting me add them - and it's going to be her device now that I have the Cybook.

Derek

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf

With the goto page function within a book, I no longer have the bump the number button and go to some other page as an issue.

delphidb96 · 09-17-2007, 11:20 PM

Yet another image I snapped while waiting for my photofloods. This is a shot of the Cybook displaying a page of the graphic novel "Roswell, Texas", which can be found at BigHead Press ( www.bigheadpress.com )

Derek

SUSGOD · 09-18-2007, 12:06 AM

Derek,

The Cybook appears to have two buttons on the right side and four buttons on the left. What are their functions?

Susan

delphidb96 · 09-18-2007, 01:20 AM

Susgod,

On the front is the wonderful jogwheel/compass/navigator, AKA the main directional pad.

On the left edge are four function buttons. From the top, they are:

Audio Center (also F1)
Contextual Menu (also F2)
Back (also F3)
Delete (also F4)

On the right edge are two function buttons. From the top, they are:

Volume Up
Volume Down

The top edge has one SD card slot and one button. The button is Power.

The bottom edge has a rubber gasket covering the USB port and the earphone connector port.

Hope this helps.

Derek

De

Quote:

Originally Posted by SUSGOD

Derek,

The Cybook appears to have two buttons on the right side and four buttons on the left. What are their functions?

Susan

HarryT · 09-18-2007, 03:43 AM

Derek,

How do you navigate within a book on the CyBook? Is there a "goto page X" facility? As you may know, on the "standard" MobiPocket Reader there's a progress bar that one can simply tap with the mouse or stylus to move to that position. How is it done on this machine?

09-17-2007, 11:20 PM	#102
delphidb96 Wizard Posts: 2,999 Karma: 300001 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Citrus Heights, California Device: TWO Kindle 2s, one each Bookeen Cybook Gen3, Sony PRS-500, Axim X51V	Yet another image I snapped while waiting for my photofloods. This is a shot of the Cybook displaying a page of the graphic novel "Roswell, Texas", which can be found at BigHead Press ( www.bigheadpress.com ) Derek Last edited by delphidb96; 09-21-2007 at 01:12 PM.

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09-17-2007, 07:51 PM	#91
penty Connoisseur Posts: 70 Karma: 367 Join Date: Sep 2007 Device: CyBook Gen3	Read our notes delphidb96, that's a planned feature.

09-17-2007, 07:52 PM	#92
MikeF74 Groupie Posts: 179 Karma: 28 Join Date: May 2007 Device: Sony PRS-505	I don't see a problem where if the device auto suspends after about 30min of no button presses (if not playing music). Waiting the extra 30s for it to come out of resume is a small price to pay for improved battery life. It should come out when pressing any button, not just the power button. Ideally, it would know which button brought it out of suspend so that action can be taken once the system is ready. Some indicator would be necessary to explain the wait, but otherwise keep the text on the screen until the system is back up. Definitely don't want to see any boot imagry. If some people always need it "at the ready", for example a salesman using it for quick reference to show a client, then there should be a menu option to disable auto-suspend.

09-17-2007, 08:30 PM	#96
guguy Groupie Posts: 191 Karma: 15 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Clermont-Ferrand/Paris, France Device: PRS-505	Both interfaces have avantages and drawbacks, and when the PRS-505 will be out it will be the main difference between the gen3 and the reader (that, and the price in favor of the reader). Ok, the Cybook can read Mobipocket files but the mobi drm has been cracked, so...

09-17-2007, 09:39 PM	#100
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 74,037 Karma: 129333114 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	With the goto page function within a book, I no longer have the bump the number button and go to some other page as an issue.

09-18-2007, 12:06 AM	#103
SUSGOD Connoisseur Posts: 84 Karma: 21 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NJ Device: Aluratek Libre-eBook reader PRO	Derek, The Cybook appears to have two buttons on the right side and four buttons on the left. What are their functions? Susan

09-18-2007, 03:43 AM	#105
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Derek, How do you navigate within a book on the CyBook? Is there a "goto page X" facility? As you may know, on the "standard" MobiPocket Reader there's a progress bar that one can simply tap with the mouse or stylus to move to that position. How is it done on this machine?

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