Peace Talks - possible spoilers - you have been warned

pwalker8 · 07-16-2020, 02:13 PM

Surprised that no one else started the thread, maybe I'm just a fast reader, or maybe it's good to be retired.

I thought the book started a bit slow, but got back in stride after the whole harry Dresden Daddy thing. David Weber went through the same thing. It makes me wonder if Jim Butcher has something going on in his personal life with regards to kids.

There were a couple of things that I thought were a bit forced. The Harry verses Ebenezer thing felt forced to me. I kept thinking that we would find out that Ebenezer had been bespelled, maybe we will.

It's going to be interesting to see what part the Knights of the Cross play. Obviously, they will figure in somehow.

All in all, I enjoyed the book. I did read it fairly quickly. It wasn't Harry Potter good, where I stayed up all night reading, but pretty solid. I'm going to give it a week or so before listening to the audiobook. I find that I frequently pick up on things in the audiobook that I missed in the ebook.

Luffy · 07-17-2020, 07:19 AM

Have read only your last paragraph. The plan was to read the book in two days flat, but when for me, the hype bubble burst, I decided to bear with only one chapter per day. I have given Dresden books 1 star in the past. A couple of times. And this book, IMHO, is cut from that same cloth.

DuckieTigger · 07-17-2020, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by pwalker8

Surprised that no one else started the thread, maybe I'm just a fast reader, or maybe it's good to be retired.

Yeah, the retired part must be it. I am only about 2/3 through as of right now. It appears to be not that much stuff happening.

pwalker8 · 07-18-2020, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Luffy

Have read only your last paragraph. The plan was to read the book in two days flat, but when for me, the hype bubble burst, I decided to bear with only one chapter per day. I have given Dresden books 1 star in the past. A couple of times. And this book, IMHO, is cut from that same cloth.

Can't say that I've ever read a book that I would have given it 1 star. I've started some, but why waste time reading something you don't like?

I certainly liked the book a lot more that Ghost Stories. I think that I'm going to have to read Battleground before giving Peace Talks it's final grade.

pwalker8 · 07-18-2020, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DuckieTigger

Yeah, the retired part must be it. I am only about 2/3 through as of right now. It appears to be not that much stuff happening.

I keep going back to my comparison between this and the In Enemy's Hands/Echo's of Honor book pair from the Weber's Honor Harrington series. I think there are things being set up for the second book, the question is what is being set up and what is the resolution. The whole issue with Thomas and why he did what he did. The conflict between Harry and his grandfather. How do the Knights of the Cross figure into the resolution? How about the artifacts?

Peace Talks is obviously a set up book, setting the stage for Battleground. My personal feeling is that enough happened to hold my interested such that I read the book in one day.

Dopedangel · 07-18-2020, 07:52 AM

To me this felt like half a book when they announced a 2nd book I thought maybe it ran to long so they decided to chop it in 2 and after finishing it I am sure of it.

Spoiler:

Luffy · 07-19-2020, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by pwalker8

Can't say that I've ever read a book that I would have given it 1 star. I've started some, but why waste time reading something you don't like?

I certainly liked the book a lot more that Ghost Stories. I think that I'm going to have to read Battleground before giving Peace Talks it's final grade.

The only reason I am reading is because there are potentially great Dresden books in the future and I want to know what happens here so I don't feel stranded.

DuckieTigger · 07-20-2020, 02:42 AM

I believe it is fair to say that the short story Christmas Eve, which was planned to happen after Peace Talks, will be after Battle Ground. There hasn't been a need for the reparations to humans in Peace Talks. Another part that was in Peace Talks, which may or may not happen in Battle Ground. Since it hasn't happened yet, probably needs a spoiler:

Spoiler:

John F · 07-24-2020, 02:50 PM

A question. From the book:

Quote:

The guard stepped back with a Grimace and said "watch that Freydis, man. She'll gut you as soon as look at you."

"spoken like a 3" I said. He looked confused. I kept moving.

What does the "spoken like a 3" refer to?

Edit: fixed "at 3" to "a 3".

DuckieTigger · 07-24-2020, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by John F

A question. From the book:

What does the "spoken like a 3" refer to?

Didn't ring a bell. The only thing, far stretched, could be parody from Back to the Future where Bill Biff says "Make like a tree!"

Edit: his name was Biff, not Bill. And the full sentence: "Make like a tree and leave!" If Jim Butcher was referring to that, he would probably use the whole quote. So probably not that.

John F · 07-24-2020, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by John F

A question. From the book:

What does the "spoken like a 3" refer to?

Edit: fixed "at 3" to "a 3".

I should have googled it. I must have been reading that part to fast and missed the earlier reference.

DuckieTigger · 07-24-2020, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by John F

I should have googled it. I must have been reading that part to fast and missed the earlier reference.

Did you find a reference? Because I am still clueless. The only other explanation I have is, that it was meant to be confusing and senseless. When I read it, I was like, huh, what does that mean? And then Harry just explains it in passing. Took it to mean that Jim Butcher hasn't lost his snark powers.

Edit: unless you mean this: https://amp.reddit.com/r/dresdenfile...t_a_reference/ ?

cc_in_oh · 07-24-2020, 08:23 PM

Freydis raised Harry from a 3 to a 6...

Edit> (after they danced at the reception IIRC)

John F · 07-25-2020, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by DuckieTigger

Did you find a reference? Because I am still clueless. The only other explanation I have is, that it was meant to be confusing and senseless. When I read it, I was like, huh, what does that mean? And then Harry just explains it in passing. Took it to mean that Jim Butcher hasn't lost his snark powers.

Edit: unless you mean this: https://amp.reddit.com/r/dresdenfile...t_a_reference/ ?

Yeah, when I googled it, I came across Reddit, which explained it.

Rich_D · 08-09-2020, 06:03 PM

Was the starborn reference in one of the other books? I don't recall it, but I haven't read them in a while.

07-16-2020, 02:13 PM	#1
pwalker8 Grand Sorcerer Posts: 7,195 Karma: 70314280 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Atlanta, GA Device: iPad Pro, iPad mini, Kobo Aura, Amazon paperwhite, Sony PRS-T2	Peace Talks - possible spoilers - you have been warned Surprised that no one else started the thread, maybe I'm just a fast reader, or maybe it's good to be retired. I thought the book started a bit slow, but got back in stride after the whole harry Dresden Daddy thing. David Weber went through the same thing. It makes me wonder if Jim Butcher has something going on in his personal life with regards to kids. There were a couple of things that I thought were a bit forced. The Harry verses Ebenezer thing felt forced to me. I kept thinking that we would find out that Ebenezer had been bespelled, maybe we will. It's going to be interesting to see what part the Knights of the Cross play. Obviously, they will figure in somehow. All in all, I enjoyed the book. I did read it fairly quickly. It wasn't Harry Potter good, where I stayed up all night reading, but pretty solid. I'm going to give it a week or so before listening to the audiobook. I find that I frequently pick up on things in the audiobook that I missed in the ebook.

07-18-2020, 07:52 AM	#6
Dopedangel Wizard Posts: 1,759 Karma: 30063305 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Singapore Device: Boyue	To me this felt like half a book when they announced a 2nd book I thought maybe it ran to long so they decided to chop it in 2 and after finishing it I am sure of it. Spoiler: As far as Ebenezer thing goes without knowing what he has against the white court exactly we can't understand him maybe it will be revealed in the next book. I think this story line and some of the passages in it are trying to show Harry growing to accept the fact that he will be the point man against the outsiders and to accept he is more powerful than he assumes ie more powerful than the most powerful wizard to Dresden his grandfather

07-20-2020, 02:42 AM	#8
DuckieTigger Wizard Posts: 4,742 Karma: 246906703 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: USA Device: Oasis 3, Oasis 2, PW3, PW1, KT	I believe it is fair to say that the short story Christmas Eve, which was planned to happen after Peace Talks, will be after Battle Ground. There hasn't been a need for the reparations to humans in Peace Talks. Another part that was in Peace Talks, which may or may not happen in Battle Ground. Since it hasn't happened yet, probably needs a spoiler: Spoiler: Jim Butcher hinted at some point that he was writing Murphy's funeral, presumably Karrin. Given her bad physical shape and stubbornness in Peace Talks, she might die in next book. Hopefully it will be meaningful and not some freak accident.

07-24-2020, 08:23 PM	#13
cc_in_oh Bob's my uncle Posts: 931 Karma: 17008060 Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: NE OH Device: Kindle	Freydis raised Harry from a 3 to a 6... Edit> (after they danced at the reception IIRC) Last edited by cc_in_oh; 07-25-2020 at 08:17 AM.

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