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Old 09-05-2017, 07:03 AM   #46
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No, because it is FICTION. If it was a how to guide, you would be totally and completely correct.
There are lots of articles from people who are in the lifestyle saying it's dangerous.
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Many things explored in fiction are dangerous.

That's the whole point of fiction, to allow the reader to explore, to be, to experience being someone else.
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Old 09-05-2017, 08:04 AM   #48
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Many things explored in fiction are dangerous.

That's the whole point of fiction, to allow the reader to explore, to be, to experience being someone else.
I wouldn't say it's the whole point of fiction or even the point of the best fiction.
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I wouldn't say it's the whole point of fiction or even the point of the best fiction.
Okay, what is then?
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Old 09-05-2017, 11:36 AM   #50
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There are lots of articles from people who are in the lifestyle saying it's dangerous.
I have seen those articles.
Now like I said she did not write a how to guide though if you need a how to guide there are a couple of very good ones out there. She wrote a fiction romance novel.

The only way that book is dangerous is if the people that read it are stupid enough to take it as fact and try it at home.
The lifestylers are correct in warning people not to use FSOG as a guide. I am assuming these articles are on specific websites.
I do believe even I said the author should have done more research.


Fiction should be entertaining. It doesn't have to be real.
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Old 09-05-2017, 12:40 PM   #51
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Okay, what is then?
The point of fiction is to tell a story, one with coherence, cohesiveness and integrity. That's all it owes to the reader. Appeals to the emotions, whether in regard to likability of characters or the ability to identify with them or live through them are cheap if intentional. Readers who seek these things as a requirement will miss out on much, although as Harry said upthread, there's nothing inherently wrong with a cracking good read. But what a reader brings to a story or hopes to get from it is his responsibility; it's not the responsibility of a story to provide them; the story's only responsibility is to itself.

I am not overlooking the need of the writer in most cases to make his living. Nothing wrong with that; writing to market is probably not the path to great literature, but it might turn out to have been, once the dust settles. It's the exception, however. Few things are as dull as many of yesteryear's best-sellers and most of the best are eminently forgettable.
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Old 09-05-2017, 01:09 PM   #52
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Which comes down to exactly what I said.

A story allows the reader to explore, to be, to experience.
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Old 09-05-2017, 01:10 PM   #53
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P.S. the word 'allows' is what you seem to be hung up on....
...well that and literature with a capital L.
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P.S. the word 'allows' is what you seem to be hung up on....
...well that and literature with a capital L.
No, it's the phrase, "That's the whole point of fiction." It most certainly is not. That fiction allows for personal response does not make it the point, much less the whole point, of fiction. It's a side effect.
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No, it's the phrase, "That's the whole point of fiction." It most certainly is not. That fiction allows for personal response does not make it the point, much less the whole point, of fiction. It's a side effect.
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Ah. I take it you disagree, but are unable to defend your position so you're engaging in deflection by emoticon instead.
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Ah. I take it you disagree, but are unable to defend your position so you're engaging in deflection by emoticon instead.
Not in the least. Carry on.
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I thought it was Carry on our wayward son.
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I thought it was Carry on our wayward son.
A riff off of the long Carry On British movie series. . .
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