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Old 12-13-2020, 02:37 PM   #1
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I've searched the threads here and really can't find one with the answer to my question. Google is not much help at all. Anyhow, here's the question:

I'm using a linux computer and calibre for book management. Ereader is a Samsung 7 tablet. So far I haven't found a place (Google Play, Kobo, B&N) where I can purchase an epub title that doesn't have digital rights management. I tried to purchase a book on Google Play and all I get is a link that will direct me to download book to Adobe DRM which I don't have on my computer. I suppose I could download wine and try to run it there, but am not really in the mood for that.

I'm probably not seeing the obvious here, maybe there's an easier way. I'd like to purchase the Master of War series by David Gilman to start.

Any suggestions?

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You want to run Adobe Digital Editions 2.0.1 and using Calibre 5.x with the DeDRM plugin v7.0.0b4, you can remove the DRM from your ePub. No need to worry about getting DRM free ePub. You can get DeDRM v7.0.0b4 from Apprentice Alf's Blog.

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I believe that DRM is specified by the publisher, not just the bookstore. So if Gilman's publisher requires DRM, his books will be sold with DRM at all bookstores. Stores like Kobo sell books without DRM when the publisher allows it.

There are a few bookstores who don't use DRM at all: Baen (mostly science fiction and fantasy) and Smashwords are the only ones I know of.

So I'm afraid you'll have to either be limited in the ebooks you can read, or go through the hassle of installing wine and the setup JSWolf described.
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I'm using a linux computer and calibre for book management. Ereader is a Samsung 7 tablet. So far I haven't found a place (Google Play, Kobo, B&N) where I can purchase an epub title that doesn't have digital rights management.

Any suggestions?

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Maybe you should consider getting a used registerable kindle. (Be wary of any that might be banned by amazon because of being reported lost, stolen, replaced, or other reason.) Then register it on amazon and make a record of its serial number. After that, you never have to do anything with it again.

You can then buy books from amazon and download them to your linux computer and use Apprentice Alf's calibre plugin to take care of your DRM problem, then use mobileread's kindleunpack python utility or calibre conversion to convert to EPUB. The kindleunpack output is pretty much as close as possible to the publisher EPUB as is possible.

It is best if the kindle is capable of azw3, not just mobi. Any kindle with a touchscreen should be OK, except maybe the original kindle touch.
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I believe that DRM is specified by the publisher, not just the bookstore. So if Gilman's publisher requires DRM, his books will be sold with DRM at all bookstores. Stores like Kobo sell books without DRM when the publisher allows it.

There are a few bookstores who don't use DRM at all: Baen (mostly science fiction and fantasy) and Smashwords are the only ones I know of.

So I'm afraid you'll have to either be limited in the ebooks you can read, or go through the hassle of installing wine and the setup JSWolf described.
Tor eBooks are DRM free as is Star Trek eBooks from S&S/Pocket Books.
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Maybe you should consider getting a used registerable kindle. (Be wary of any that might be banned by amazon because of being reported lost, stolen, replaced, or other reason.) Then register it on amazon and make a record of its serial number. After that, you never have to do anything with it again.

You can then buy books from amazon and download them to your linux computer and use Apprentice Alf's calibre plugin to take care of your DRM problem, then use mobileread's kindleunpack python utility or calibre conversion to convert to EPUB. The kindleunpack output is pretty much as close as possible to the publisher EPUB as is possible.

It is best if the kindle is capable of azw3, not just mobi. Any kindle with a touchscreen should be OK, except maybe the original kindle touch.
Kindle's as far back as the K3 can handle KF8.
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I've thrown this out before, and I'm not sure if it will work..

install an Android dev environment. Download an app that uses RMDSK (like bluefire reader). Use the dedrm tools.
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Thanks for the replies. I'll probably end up getting a kindle and wading through the Amazon swamp.
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Thanks for the replies. I'll probably end up getting a kindle and wading through the Amazon swamp.
Why? A Kobo is so much better. The firmware makes the Kobo give a better reading experience plus you can manage eBooks so much easier. If you go Kindle, you'll regret it.
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Why? A Kobo is so much better. The firmware makes the Kobo give a better reading experience plus you can manage eBooks so much easier. If you go Kindle, you'll regret it.
The OP cannot deDRM their books without an eink Kindle, because they cannot install ADE on their Linux computer.
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The OP cannot deDRM their books without an eink Kindle, because they cannot install ADE on their Linux computer.
There was a suggestion given that might work using Bluefire Reader. Also, you can install ADE 2.0.1 using Win. It's convoluted, but it can be done. Also, Windows can be installed in a virtual environment or dual-boot Windows.

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Sadly there are few ereader that can handle ACSM files directly, without needing Adobe Digital Editions. I know that Pocketbook can do it because I own it. You only need a account.

But of course I won't advice You to buy a ereader for that reason because You already use a tablet and You don't need a eink device.

I am not expert of Android app (I image that the tablet uses Android) but: does it exist a reader app that can handle ACSM files directly without ADE? You could explore that possibility.

If there is not such app You can try to install ADE trough Wine or to buy a old Kindle for the lowest price You can, but pay attention to the black list because otherwise You won't be able to register it on Your Amazon Account.

Edit: of course You can also install the kindle app on You reder and buy it from amazon. The purchase of a Kindle is to get rid of DRM.

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Buying a Kindle when he already has something is a waste of money.
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There was a suggestion given that might work using Bluefire Reader. Also, you can install ADE 2.0.1 using Win. It's convoluted, but it can be done. Also, Windows can be installed in a virtual environment or dual-boot Windows.
The OP doesn't want to install wine.

Some linux users go months or even years between reboots. Spending money on an OS licence to run a single unnecessary application is a big waste of both time and money, so dual boot is likely out of the question and virtual environment almost as bad.

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But buying a kobo isn't?
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The OP doesn't want to install wine.

Some linux users go months or even years between reboots. Spending money on an OS licence to run a single unnecessary application is a big waste of both time and money, so dual boot is likely out of the question and virtual environment almost as bad.
I'm probably misreading your message but why the OP would need to purchase an OS license to run ADE under WINE? Fora full Windows install, yes but then most Linux tend to have a Windows license or two kicking around from where they sidegraded to Linux.

Personally, I have a great fondness for virtualization since it allows me to run multiple Windows. Linux and even MacOS installations on my laptop. Not to mention, the ease of creating and tweaking an OS template for our corporate virtualization environment.

And some Linux users going months or even years between reboots? From what I've seen that is not that common and is taking unnecessary risks. Our Linux servers get rebooted several times per year when we install security upgrades both for the OS and for applications.
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