Kindle Library book question

mdovell · 10-05-2011, 12:45 PM

So I took a book out.

Works fine..I can view it in cloud too

I downloaded the book to the pc and then to the kindle...

in cloud it expired but on kindle it hasn't...I'm not complaining but I was under the general impression that files were to be automatically deleted upon syncing or that after x number of days it would stop working...

If they want to give out books free that's fine but I would find this to be quite odd

ucfgrad93 · 10-05-2011, 01:17 PM

I also thought it was to be deleted after the loan period was up.

Blossom · 10-06-2011, 12:53 PM

It's deleted when you do a synch at least on my K3 it does and I get a message about it on there too. It stays in your Archive till you go to your MYK and get rid of it. I guess they want you to buy a book you already read.

tomsem · 10-06-2011, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Blossom

It's deleted when you do a synch at least on my K3 it does and I get a message about it on there too. It stays in your Archive till you go to your MYK and get rid of it. I guess they want you to buy a book you already read.

I think if you delete it, any notes/highlights you may have made go away also. I've been meaning to verify this..

And yes, they'd be happy to have you purchase the book.

Blossom · 10-06-2011, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by tomsem

I think if you delete it, any notes/highlights you may have made go away also. I've been meaning to verify this..

And yes, they'd be happy to have you purchase the book.

Ah that's makes sense I don't use notes or highlights. I cringe when I see it in a real book. So i plan to delete them. I have checked out two so far on my Kindle. It's nice to be able to do but I like ADE where it tells how much time is left. It sure is handy when you have 3 Libraries you check out from.

Do anyone know if you purchase the kindle book if any goes to the library? I can purchase a book on my library's site and they get a cut from it.

cfo · 10-07-2011, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by tomsem

I think if you delete it, any notes/highlights you may have made go away also. I've been meaning to verify this..

No. Not true.

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Amazon: Customers will be able to check out a Kindle book from their local library and start reading on any Kindle device or free Kindle app for Android, iPad, iPod touch, iPhone, PC, Mac, BlackBerry, or Windows Phone. If a Kindle book is checked out again or that book is purchased from Amazon, all of a customer's annotations and bookmarks will be preserved.

I've made highlights in Kindle library books, then I either (1) deleted the book from my device or (2) "returned" a library book and both times, the highlights are available.

DiapDealer · 10-07-2011, 05:35 PM

Here's what I've determined. The first time I connected to wireless after my loan period expired (or I returned it), the library book is removed from my Kindle and replaced with a stub-book/file of sorts (azw file). That stub book/file consists of nothing more than a cover, a message that my loan has expired, and a link to purchase the book. At that time, the companion file (mbp) was renamed so that it was associated with that stub book. The mbp file remained on my Kindle as long as I left that stub book on it. As soon as I deleted that tiny stub book... bye, bye companion file. Maybe they keep a copy on the server that will show up if I re-borrow or purchase, but for now... my companion file went away.

krm0789 · 10-09-2011, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by cfo

No. Not true.

I've made highlights in Kindle library books, then I either (1) deleted the book from my device or (2) "returned" a library book and both times, the highlights are available.

But there's also the "delete from library" option. Like tomsem, I am under the impression that if you take *that* step, you then lose notes & highlights.

cfo · 10-09-2011, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by krm0789

But there's also the "delete from library" option. Like tomsem, I am under the impression that if you take *that* step, you then lose notes & highlights.

Well, I have done *that* as well and my highlights are still present. You should try it out for yourself instead of being "under the impression."

Edit- Even Amazon says that your annotations (i.e., notes and highlights) and bookmarks are kept on file. I already quoted their announcement in my previous post.

krm0789 · 10-10-2011, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by cfo

Well, I have done *that* as well and my highlights are still present. You should try it out for yourself instead of being "under the impression."

Edit- Even Amazon says that your annotations (i.e., notes and highlights) and bookmarks are kept on file. I already quoted their announcement in my previous post.

Thanks for the snarky response

DiapDealer · 10-10-2011, 11:59 AM

Well my highlights for my library book are gone (the companion mbp file). I don't know where they went. I didn't delete them manually or anything. All I did was delete the expired books from my Amazon library (archive). So I'm not quite sure what the deal is yet. If the book is gone, how would I access the highlights and bookmarks to verify their existence anyway?

tubemonkey · 10-10-2011, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DiapDealer

If the book is gone, how would I access the highlights and bookmarks to verify their existence anyway?

Check it out again.

DiapDealer · 10-10-2011, 01:17 PM

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Check it out again.

I'm thinking that might be the only way. But I'm not that interested in finding out. It's not really a cool enough feature to warrant that much research. I was just curious.

ucfgrad93 · 10-10-2011, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by tubemonkey

Check it out again.

Or buy it.

I just got an email from Amazon letting me know that my first library ebook is due back in three days. They were nice enough to include a "Buy this book" link.

SCION · 10-10-2011, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ucfgrad93

...

I just got an email from Amazon letting me know that my first library ebook is due back in three days. They were nice enough to include a "Buy this book" link.

Very nice.

10-05-2011, 12:45 PM	#1
mdovell Zealot Posts: 144 Karma: 3168 Join Date: Feb 2010 Device: Kindle DX	Kindle Library book question So I took a book out. Works fine..I can view it in cloud too I downloaded the book to the pc and then to the kindle... in cloud it expired but on kindle it hasn't...I'm not complaining but I was under the general impression that files were to be automatically deleted upon syncing or that after x number of days it would stop working... If they want to give out books free that's fine but I would find this to be quite odd

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10-05-2011, 01:17 PM	#2
ucfgrad93 Wizard Posts: 2,360 Karma: 9026681 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Colorado Device: Kindle Paperwhite 2nd Gen	I also thought it was to be deleted after the loan period was up.

10-06-2011, 12:53 PM	#3
Blossom Treasure Seeker Posts: 18,708 Karma: 26026435 Join Date: Mar 2010 Device: Kobo HD Glo, Kindles, Kindle Fires, Andriod Devices	It's deleted when you do a synch at least on my K3 it does and I get a message about it on there too. It stays in your Archive till you go to your MYK and get rid of it. I guess they want you to buy a book you already read.

10-07-2011, 05:35 PM	#7
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 27,547 Karma: 193191846 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	Here's what I've determined. The first time I connected to wireless after my loan period expired (or I returned it), the library book is removed from my Kindle and replaced with a stub-book/file of sorts (azw file). That stub book/file consists of nothing more than a cover, a message that my loan has expired, and a link to purchase the book. At that time, the companion file (mbp) was renamed so that it was associated with that stub book. The mbp file remained on my Kindle as long as I left that stub book on it. As soon as I deleted that tiny stub book... bye, bye companion file. Maybe they keep a copy on the server that will show up if I re-borrow or purchase, but for now... my companion file went away.

10-10-2011, 11:59 AM	#11
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 27,547 Karma: 193191846 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	Well my highlights for my library book are gone (the companion mbp file). I don't know where they went. I didn't delete them manually or anything. All I did was delete the expired books from my Amazon library (archive). So I'm not quite sure what the deal is yet. If the book is gone, how would I access the highlights and bookmarks to verify their existence anyway?