Epub coming to the Sony Store on 11 December

[wallcraft]

Originally Posted by pilotbob

You will see some ebook stores say that one of the formats of their ebooks is "ADE"... that usually means ePub protected by Adobe DRM. As I said, this does confuse people.

This usually indicates an Adobe PDF ebook with DRM (as 13xforever said above). It could sometimes be referring to an Adobe ePub ebook, since both are read by Adobe Digital Editions (Desktop, or the mobile SDK). I agree that it would be better if publishers used Adobe PDF and Adobe ePub, rather than Adobe Digital Editions. I think the reason they don't is that Adobe PDF Reader does not read Adobe PDF ebooks, or at least they are handed off to Adobe Digital Editions.

[DaleDe]

Originally Posted by pilotbob

Yes, but by using the ™ instead of the ® tells me this hasn't been registered so is still open to review by the trademark board.

BOb

Actually the US uses the ® while most of the rest of the world uses ™ so for international use the ™ is preferable. It does not mean that it is still open to review.

Dale

[pilotbob]

Originally Posted by DaleDe

Actually the US uses the ® while most of the rest of the world uses ™ so for international use the ™ is preferable. It does not mean that it is still open to review.

Dale

In the US using ™ means it is not registered:

You can use the symbols TM for trademark or SM for service mark to indicate that you claims rights to the marks without having federal registration. However, use of the TM and SM symbols may be governed by different local, state, or foreign laws. The federal registration symbol ® can only be used after the mark is actually registered in the USPTO. Even though an application is pending, the registration symbol ® may not be used before the mark has actually become registered.

BOb

[ginalola]

Forgive me if I post this in the wrong thread, but can anyone tell me why Sony is not allowing the choice of the old format and the new. Fictionwise and many other ebookstores offer various formats. I am one of the folks that likes the books formatted without full justification. I would love the choice of the format we have now.

[pedgarcia]

My guess is because the proprietary format is marked to die, and it is cheaper upgrade all 500s firmwares for free than keeping two different formats.

[kennyc]

Originally Posted by ginalola

Forgive me if I post this in the wrong thread, but can anyone tell me why Sony is not allowing the choice of the old format and the new. Fictionwise and many other ebookstores offer various formats. I am one of the folks that likes the books formatted without full justification. I would love the choice of the format we have now.

Probably just to simplify. Much easier to just maintain one format.

[kfarmer]

Originally Posted by pilotbob

In the US using ™ means it is not registered:

Not to pick nits, but the text you quoted says only one thing:

*IF* you use (R), *THEN* your mark must be registered.

It does *not* say:

*IF* you use (TM), *THEN* your mark must *NOT* be registered.

nor does it say:

*IF* you register your mark, *THEN* you must only use (R).

According to the text you present, there are no restrictions (at the federal level) for using (TM) -- only for (R).

My apologies -- I've been up to my ears in writing an inference engine lately.

[pilotbob]

Originally Posted by kfarmer

Not to pick nits, but the text you quoted says only one thing:

*IF* you use (R), *THEN* your mark must be registered.

It does *not* say:

*IF* you use (TM), *THEN* your mark must *NOT* be registered.

No you are of course correct. But, to pick another nit, why would they use ™ if they could properly use ® ? I very much doubt this is a registered trademark in the US or they would use ®.

BOb

[kennyc]

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_th..._in_the_circle

[DaleDe]

Originally Posted by pilotbob

[/INDENT]No you are of course correct. But, to pick another nit, why would they use ™ if they could properly use ® ? I very much doubt this is a registered trademark in the US or they would use ®.

BOb

As I already told you the reason. Most other countries don't know about ® which is not used in their countries. A company I worked for in the past always used ™ for that reason. Today international is the wave.

Dale

[hmgreen]

I have the Sony Reader 600 (upgraded from a PRS-505). When I got it and downloaded the latest software for the Sony Library on my Vista Based PC it NEVER worked. It would spontaneously freeze or shut down and I couldn't download books. After MANY calls to Sony Tech Support and more uninstall/reinstall/reboot cycles than I care to even count they and I gave up. I am now using very successfully the 2.5 version of the software and all is stable.

Now we have the 3.1 version coming out to support the Daily Edition and Win 7 (neither of which I plan to acquire).

So.... will I need to install this update to use my Reader, current books,and download future books or can I stay with "Old Faithful" vers. 2.5? Will this create a problem with ePUB? I assume that the only users needing a firmware update are those 505 owners who never did it (I did on that one) and I assume the 600 is already ePub compatible.

Any insight anyone can provide will allow me to sleep at night! Thanks!

[Harmon]

Originally Posted by anurag

Well, I hope their commitment to offering great prices doesn't stay the same - it needs to change for the better.

It does seem that the Sony/Borders bookstore is consistently higher than others.

I wonder if that's a Borders issue? So you suppose that Borders sees the bookstore as cannibalizing its bricks & mortar sales?

[Harmon]

Originally Posted by Donnageddon

I am of two minds on this: I applaud Sony's adoption of the open, albeit DRMd, ePub format, but I hope they will get fixed the "full justification" issue. It is only a slight annoyance, but an annoyance none the less.

- oh, and the page number in the right margin issue.

Make that of three minds...

What is the "full justification" issue?

Edit: Oh, I see. My own two cents is that it usually doesn't bother me, but if given a choice, I do not want full justification. It leads to stretched out words, or big spaces between them.

I have a book called "While You're Reading" by Gerald Unger, which is about typography & design. There's only one occurance of the word "justification" in the whole book, in the context of a discussion about the space surrounding individual letters in words. The text in this book is justified left.

It appears to me that anything appearing in columns needs full justification to help the reader keep focus on the right column. The justification seems to set up a visual frame for the column. I suspect that it is the lack of framing that bothers some people when the text is justified left. I wonder if it correlates with how fast one can read. I can imagine that "framed" text is easier to read fast.

It also occurs to me that one place where one does NOT want full justification is in poetry, and another might be in librettos or scripts.

With this in mind, it seems to me that if the choice is to have only one, left justification is the way to go on an ereader. So full justification should be optional.

[Bilbo1967]

Originally Posted by Harmon

What is the "full justification" issue?

Basically, epub on Sonys won't display as fully justified.

i.e. paragraphs will look like:

aaa aaa aaa aaa
aaaa aaa aa
aaaaaa aaa aa
aaaa aaa

Instead of:

aaa aaa aaa aaa
aaa aaa aaa aaa
aaa aaa aaa aaa

Full justification aligns both the right and left edges of the text.

[Harmon]

Originally Posted by Bilbo1967

Basically, epub on Sonys won't display as fully justified.

i.e. paragraphs will look like:

.....

Full justification aligns both the right and left edges of the text.

My question was not about the meaning, but rather, why is there an issue? See my edit to the post you responded to for my take on it.