E-BookStores offering titles in *.lrf

Arek_W · 07-17-2007, 08:05 AM

Any chances we could pull out the list of EBookstores offering titles in *lrf which could be an alternative to Sony store (which is quite poor when it comes to choice

It would be great to have choice not only from the US, if there is one

Appreciate your answers

Nate the great · 07-17-2007, 08:18 AM

The following is a list of ebookstores that carry ebooks for the Sony Reader:

1. Sony Connect
2. Sony Connect
3. Sony Connect

Arek_W · 07-17-2007, 08:28 AM

are u for real?
ok, than what are
1. best e-bookstores offering different formats?
2. is *.lrf format proprietary format of SONY?
3. what does it take to make them offer *.lrf's (not Connect

)

HarryT · 07-17-2007, 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nate the great

The following is a list of ebookstores that carry ebooks for the Sony Reader:

1. Sony Connect
2. Sony Connect
3. Sony Connect

... but none of those carry "lrf" files, which was the question asked

.

"lrf" is the file extension of unprotected Sony Reader files. The "Connect" store only sells DRM-protected content - these are "lrx" files.

Nate the great · 07-17-2007, 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arek_W

are u for real?
ok, than what are
1. best e-bookstores offering different formats?
2. is *.lrf format proprietary format of SONY?
3. what does it take to make them offer *.lrf's (not Connect

)

Sorry. I couldn't resist the joke. LRF is proprietary, but it has no DRM. I don't think it is going to be of interest to most sellers.

I don't know of any ebookstore that carries that format right now. I am currently pestering Baen and Fictionwise. You're welcome to join in.

I don't have any money for books at the moment. But when I have the money I will buy ebooks in the MSReader LIT format. You can legally remove the DRM, and then convert to LRF. The software to do this can be found here:

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11618

Nate the great · 07-17-2007, 08:53 AM

Also, LIT is sold just about everywhere. Go here and search, and you'll be told where you can buy:

www.mslit.com

HarryT · 07-17-2007, 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nate the great

I don't have any money for books at the moment. But when I have the money I will buy ebooks in the MSReader LIT format. You can legally remove the DRM, and then convert to LRF.

Arek is in Poland. Are you absolutely certain that Polish law allows one to circumvent DRM? It's illegal to do so in the UK! It is unwise to assume that the law everywhere in the world is the same as in one's own country.

NatCh · 07-17-2007, 09:22 AM

There is one place I know of besides the ConnStore that offers BBeB (the more generic name for LRF/LRX books): http://www.SteveJordanBooks.com

HarryT · 07-17-2007, 09:24 AM

Then of course there's Baen, which offers formats such as HTML and RTF which can be very easily converted to LRF.

Nate the great · 07-17-2007, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

Arek is in Poland. Are you absolutely certain that Polish law allows one to circumvent DRM? It's illegal to do so in the UK! It is unwise to assume that the law everywhere in the world is the same as in one's own country.

mikolaj · 07-17-2007, 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

Arek is in Poland. Are you absolutely certain that Polish law allows one to circumvent DRM? It's illegal to do so in the UK! It is unwise to assume that the law everywhere in the world is the same as in one's own country.

I moved out a couple of years ago, but I'm fairly sure the Polish legislators wouldn't tell DRM even if it fell on them. The question is whether there is any EU directive on DRM, something they could have effortlessly hacked into a law.

HarryT · 07-17-2007, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikolaj

I moved out a couple of years ago, but I'm fairly sure the Polish legislators wouldn't tell DRM even if it fell on them. The question is whether there is any EU directive on DRM, something they could have effortlessly hacked into a law.

There is indeed an EU copyright directive, but, as you know, it's up to individual EU countries to implement it in national law. The UK has done so, but I don't know what other countries have or haven't, which is why I'm saying "be careful".

JSWolf · 07-17-2007, 10:29 AM

While it may be illegal (in some countries) to purchase LIT fomat books, break the DRM, and convert to BBeB, but, do you feel it's unethical?

HarryT · 07-17-2007, 10:31 AM

Nope, not at all, but the law doesn't care whether or not it's being ethical when it punishes you

. I'd have no qualms at all about doing it personally for a LIT file that I'd bought.

JSWolf · 07-17-2007, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

Nope, not at all, but the law doesn't care whether or not it's being ethical when it punishes you

. I'd have no qualms at all about doing it personally for a LIT file that I'd bought.

The law and ethics have no bearing on each other. What I want to know is why is it OK to convert CDs to another format, but to do so for an ebook is wrong?

I for one feel it's ok to convert LIT to LRF. And if I want to share said book with my wife, I don't feel that's a problem either. Even Sony allows us to share.

07-17-2007, 08:05 AM	#1
Arek_W Connoisseur Posts: 76 Karma: 24 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Wroclaw, Poland Device: PRS-505, ASUS N636	*E-BookStores offering titles in .lrf** Any chances we could pull out the list of EBookstores offering titles in *lrf which could be an alternative to Sony store (which is quite poor when it comes to choice It would be great to have choice not only from the US, if there is one Appreciate your answers

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Nate the great Sir Penguin of Edinburgh Posts: 12,375 Karma: 23555235 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: DC Metro area Device: Shake a stick plus 1	The following is a list of ebookstores that carry ebooks for the Sony Reader: 1. Sony Connect 2. Sony Connect 3. Sony Connect

07-17-2007, 08:28 AM	#3
Arek_W Connoisseur Posts: 76 Karma: 24 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Wroclaw, Poland Device: PRS-505, ASUS N636	are u for real? ok, than what are 1. best e-bookstores offering different formats? 2. is .lrf format proprietary format of SONY? 3. what does it take to make them offer .lrf's (not Connect )

07-17-2007, 08:53 AM	#6
Nate the great Sir Penguin of Edinburgh Posts: 12,375 Karma: 23555235 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: DC Metro area Device: Shake a stick plus 1	Also, LIT is sold just about everywhere. Go here and search, and you'll be told where you can buy: www.mslit.com

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NatCh Gizmologist Posts: 11,615 Karma: 929550 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Republic of Texas Embassy at Jackson, TN Device: Pocketbook Touch HD3	There is one place I know of besides the ConnStore that offers BBeB (the more generic name for LRF/LRX books): http://www.SteveJordanBooks.com

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HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Then of course there's Baen, which offers formats such as HTML and RTF which can be very easily converted to LRF.

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JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 73,835 Karma: 128597114 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	While it may be illegal (in some countries) to purchase LIT fomat books, break the DRM, and convert to BBeB, but, do you feel it's unethical?

07-17-2007, 10:31 AM	#14
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Nope, not at all, but the law doesn't care whether or not it's being ethical when it punishes you . I'd have no qualms at all about doing it personally for a LIT file that I'd bought.

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