New Tolino Vision, Page and Epos

rcentros · 10-16-2019, 08:15 AM

The whole line now updated to Kobo clones (Forma, Libra, Clara and (probably) Aura 2 but with 8GB instead of 4GB)).

New Tolino lineup...

Page 2 (looks to be a Aura 2 "clone" but with 8GB instead of 4GB).
Shine 3 (already out, is a Clara "clone").
Vision 5 (Kobo Libra "clone").
Epos2 (Kobo Forma "clone").

I should say these are Kobo hardware clones. It looks they all still use Tolino firmware.

https://mytolino.com/

Wearever · 10-16-2019, 06:15 PM

Thanks for the link rcentros . I guess that pretty much confirms that the wedge shape at least at the higher end devices, are here to stay. Although Kobo buying Tolino probably had a lot to do with their new shape. They do look exactly like Kobo's. I wonder if the prices also match ?

bonnerable · 10-17-2019, 04:59 AM

Prices seem comparable. The vision 5 is around 179 eur while libra is 170 usd. So it's android on kobo hardware? I just bought a libra the other day. Now i want the vision 5 if it's android and rootable.

rcentros · 10-17-2019, 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by bonnerable

Prices seem comparable. The vision 5 is around 179 eur while libra is 170 usd. So it's android on kobo hardware? I just bought a libra the other day. Now i want the vision 5 if it's android and rootable.

It's Android but I don't know for sure if the Vision 5 is rootable. Apparently the Shine 3 (Clara-like hardware) is rootable, so I'm guessing the Vision 5 is (or will be) also.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqB2Pglmdfw

bonnerable · 10-17-2019, 07:42 AM

It seems Tolino is more well stocked with case options from the get go than Kobo. The dual color cases here looks nice vision 5 cases.

Wearever · 10-17-2019, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by bonnerable

It seems Tolino is more well stocked with case options from the get go than Kobo. The dual color cases here looks nice vision 5 cases.

They have a nice color selection too.

SusanReads · 10-22-2019, 05:22 AM

I wonder if the screen lighting is exactly the same as their Kobo counterparts?

Since I returned the Libra because of the uneven lighting (the screen looked overall 'busy' to me) I'm curious if Tolino's Vision 5 is exactly the same except for the software.

ottischwenk · 10-22-2019, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by rcentros

It's Android but I don't know for sure if the Vision 5 is rootable. Apparently the Shine 3 (Clara-like hardware) is rootable, so I'm guessing the Vision 5 is (or will be) also.

Android of Vision 5 and Epos 2 Firmware Version 13.1 can be opened.
In German

rcentros · 10-22-2019, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by SusanReads

Since I returned the Libra because of the uneven lighting (the screen looked overall 'busy' to me) I'm curious if Tolino's Vision 5 is exactly the same except for the software.

I'm guessing they're both made in the same factory so it's probably just a matter of the "luck of the draw" with either a Kobo or Tolino. I doubt that there's any better quality control for Kobo's Tolino division. I haven't seen a Reader with the LEDs mounted in the side (instead of the top or bottom) but I'm beginning to wonder if the design of these models is inherently flawed. It seems like a lot of folks are complaining about uneven lighting on the Forma, Libra and the Kindle Oasis models. Maybe the warm light LEDs makes getting the screen lighting even more difficult? (It didn't seem like folks had this complaint about the first two Oasis models.)

rcentros · 10-22-2019, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ottischwenk

Android of Vision 5 and Epos 2 Firmware Version 13.1 can be opened.
In German

Thanks for the link. So the newest Tolinos are running 13.1? I'm guessing if that's the case the older Tolinos will soon be getting updates. I wonder what's different?

ottischwenk · 10-23-2019, 02:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SusanReads

I wonder if the screen lighting is exactly the same as their Kobo counterparts?

Since I returned the Libra because of the uneven lighting (the screen looked overall 'busy' to me) I'm curious if Tolino's Vision 5 is exactly the same except for the software.

This is bad when reading in portait mode, but it hardly matters in landscape mode.
I am using the Tolino Epos 2 with Android AlReader App in Landscape mode two columns and it is fine.

rcentros · 10-23-2019, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ottischwenk

This is bad when reading in portait mode, but it hardly matters in landscape mode.
I am using the Tolino Epos 2 with Android AlReader App in Landscape mode two columns and it is fine.

I wish the Epos (1 & 2) had landscape, two-column mode when using the standard firmware.

ottischwenk · 10-23-2019, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by rcentros

I wish the Epos (1 & 2) had landscape, two-column mode when using the standard firmware.

It isnt, therefore I opened Android for using Android Apps.
My main Application is Calibre Companion, and my preferred reading App is AlReader.

rcentros · 10-23-2019, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ottischwenk

It isnt, therefore I opened Android for using Android Apps.
My main Application is Calibre Companion, and my preferred reading App is AlReader.

I understand, but rooting Android devices using Linux (instead of Windows) can be a pain. Besides, I like the Tolino's simplicity. My old Sony PRS-950 has dual column "built-in" and it doesn't seem like it would be that difficult to implement it in a Tolino Epos (1 or 2) or the Kobos, for that matter.

It's not a huge deal to me as I doubt that I'll keep the Epos anyhow, I don't like the size of it.

DNSB · 10-24-2019, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by rcentros

It's not a huge deal to me as I doubt that I'll keep the Epos anyhow, I don't like the size of it.

The bezels not wide enough?

10-16-2019, 08:15 AM	#1
rcentros eReader Wrangler Posts: 7,441 Karma: 48453105 Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Boise, ID Device: PB HD3, GL3, Tolino Vision 4, Voyage, Clara HD	New Tolino Vision 5, Page 2 and Epos 2 The whole line now updated to Kobo clones (Forma, Libra, Clara and (probably) Aura 2 but with 8GB instead of 4GB)). New Tolino lineup... Page 2 (looks to be a Aura 2 "clone" but with 8GB instead of 4GB). Shine 3 (already out, is a Clara "clone"). Vision 5 (Kobo Libra "clone"). Epos2 (Kobo Forma "clone"). I should say these are Kobo hardware clones. It looks they all still use Tolino firmware. https://mytolino.com/ Last edited by rcentros; 10-16-2019 at 08:49 AM.

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Wearever Wizard Posts: 1,063 Karma: 10944084 Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: New England Device: Oasis 2,Voyage, Kindlle hdx 8.9, Ipad mini 4. Air 2	Thanks for the link rcentros . I guess that pretty much confirms that the wedge shape at least at the higher end devices, are here to stay. Although Kobo buying Tolino probably had a lot to do with their new shape. They do look exactly like Kobo's. I wonder if the prices also match ?

10-17-2019, 04:59 AM	#3
bonnerable Connoisseur Posts: 57 Karma: 49187 Join Date: Oct 2010 Device: Kindle Keyboard 3G, Kobo Mini, Glo HD, Inkbook Prime HD, Kobo Libra	Prices seem comparable. The vision 5 is around 179 eur while libra is 170 usd. So it's android on kobo hardware? I just bought a libra the other day. Now i want the vision 5 if it's android and rootable.

10-17-2019, 07:42 AM	#5
bonnerable Connoisseur Posts: 57 Karma: 49187 Join Date: Oct 2010 Device: Kindle Keyboard 3G, Kobo Mini, Glo HD, Inkbook Prime HD, Kobo Libra	It seems Tolino is more well stocked with case options from the get go than Kobo. The dual color cases here looks nice vision 5 cases.

10-22-2019, 05:22 AM	#7
SusanReads Addict Posts: 214 Karma: 1228988 Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: The Netherlands Device: Kindle Paperwhite 4, Kobo Libra 2	I wonder if the screen lighting is exactly the same as their Kobo counterparts? Since I returned the Libra because of the uneven lighting (the screen looked overall 'busy' to me) I'm curious if Tolino's Vision 5 is exactly the same except for the software.