Coming Soon to Life Plus 70

[graycyn]

Originally Posted by ZodWallop

The entire life span of the author plus an additional 70 years. What's wrong with that?

Actually, it gets kind of weird for obscure authors where one simply has no clue when they died and there is little, if any, biographical info available online. Likewise for illustrators.

Date of publication would make it far easier to tell when a work becomes public domain in such instances.


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[ZodWallop]

Originally Posted by graycyn

Actually, it gets kind of weird for obscure authors where one simply has no clue when they died and there is little, if any, biographical info available online. Likewise for illustrators.

Date of publication would make it far easier to tell when a work becomes public domain in such instances.

You'll get no argument from me there. But that's not what the quoted comment was referring to at all.

[Pulpmeister]

Also coming soon:

Francis Beeding (John Leslie Palmer, 4 Sep 1885-5 Aug 1944, and Hilary Aidan Saint George Saunders, 14 Jan 1898 -16 Dec 1951): authors of some 30 adventurer and thriller novels together, including "The House of Dr Edwardes", filmed by Hitchcock as "Spellbound".

[pdurrant]

Originally Posted by Pulpmeister

Also coming soon:

Francis Beeding (John Leslie Palmer, 4 Sep 1885-5 Aug 1944, and Hilary Aidan Saint George Saunders, 14 Jan 1898 -16 Dec 1951): authors of some 30 adventurer and thriller novels together, including "The House of Dr Edwardes", filmed by Hitchcock as "Spellbound".

All out of copyright in the EU in 2022, but their first together, The Seven Sleepers (1925) will be out of copyright in the USA in 2021.

[Pulpmeister]

Also sf and pulp writer H Bedford Jones (d 1949), therefore PD 2020; and western writer Ernest Haycox (d 1950), PD 2021.

Both are PD in Australia.

[crich70]

Originally Posted by Pulpmeister

Also coming soon:

Francis Beeding (John Leslie Palmer, 4 Sep 1885-5 Aug 1944, and Hilary Aidan Saint George Saunders, 14 Jan 1898 -16 Dec 1951): authors of some 30 adventurer and thriller novels together, including "The House of Dr Edwardes", filmed by Hitchcock as "Spellbound".

Spellbound was a good movie. I had no idea it was based on a book. Or at least I had forgotten it was. Amazon has it up for sale in Kindle.

[sufue]

Do any of the folks on this thread, who seem to know a lot about public domain, know what is the status of Canada and life-plus-50 vs life-plus-70 - especially given the slow-mo on ratifying NAFTA 2.0 and the CPTPP instead of the TPP? I have a business trip to Canada in late spring, and have quite been looking forward to visits to FadedPage and PG Canada while I am there.

Any thoughts on whether the situation will change before then?

[Pulpmeister]

And
d.1948 (PD 2019)

Gertude Atherton
Ross Lockridge ("Raintree County")
Zelda Fitzgerald
Lajos Biró

d. 1949 (PD 2020)

Rex Beach
Axel Munthe
Hervey Allen
Margaret Mitchell

d. 1950 (PD 2021)

Heinrich Mann
Olaf Stapledon
George Bernard Shaw
Edna St Vincent Millay


In respect of Canada, there is a long way to go: treaties have to be ratified by Parliament, etc.

[Pulpmeister]

And another coming soon: Norbert Davis 1909-1949

Pulp author, noted for the "Doan and Carstairs" humorous private eye novellas.

[SteveEisenberg]

Originally Posted by sufue

I have a business trip to Canada in late spring, and have quite been looking forward to visits to FadedPage and PG Canada while I am there.

Any thoughts on whether the situation will change before then?

It can't change between now (I'm writing this on 2 January), and this Spring, because new books only enter the public domain on 1 January. The proposed move to Life + 70 is not retroactive.

As to whether USMCA -- the agreement requiring Canada to go to Life + 70 in the near future, while the U.S. continues to put it off for decades -- will be ratified -- it seems probable

I'm not sure if the first of the 20 missed Canadian public domain days would be 1 January 2020 or, maybe, 1 January 2021. Does anyone know?

[sufue]

Love these...although I'd call the main three (The Mouse in the Mountain, Sally's in the Alley, and Oh, Murderer Mine) books more than novellas. These are on my read-alone-because-I-may-laugh-out-loud list.

Originally Posted by Pulpmeister

And another coming soon: Norbert Davis 1909-1949

Pulp author, noted for the "Doan and Carstairs" humorous private eye novellas.

[sufue]

Thanks for the update!

Originally Posted by SteveEisenberg

It can't change between now (I'm writing this on 2 January), and this Spring, because new books only enter the public domain on 1 January. The proposed move to Life + 70 is not retroactive.

As to whether USMCA -- the agreement requiring Canada to go to Life + 70 in the near future, while the U.S. continues to put it off for decades -- will be ratified -- it seems probable

I'm not sure if the first of the 20 missed Canadian public domain days would be 1 January 2020 or, maybe, 1 January 2021. Does anyone know?

[BetterRed]

Originally Posted by stuartjmz

Reading this thread it occurred to me that the collapse of the the TPP is quite likely to be at least part of the reason why here on the non-penal side of the Tasman we're still "EOL + 50"

But it hasn't, it came into force on Dec 30 as the Comprehensive and Progressive Trans-Pacific Partnership (CPTPP), NZ is a founding signatory.

And Trump may have realised he made a mistake by pulling out of it ==>> Trump reopens door to TPP participation

BR

[AnotherCat]

Originally Posted by BetterRed

But it hasn't, it came into force on Dec 30 as the Comprehensive and Progressive Trans-Pacific Partnership (CPTPP), NZ is a founding signatory.

And Trump may have realised he made a mistake by pulling out of it ==>> Trump reopens door to TPP participation

BR

NZ is still Life+50 with no will to change.

The TPP definitely did collapse when the USA withdrew and was expected die. However, around 4 or 5 months later the remaining countries, led by Japan, agreed to resurrect it as what later became the CPTPP.

During the TPP negotiations the NZ Government had analyzed the expected economic impact of all the TPP trade effects on the country among which extending copyright to +70 had a negative impact on the economy.

When the CPTPP was negotiated around 20 or so requirements that the USA alone had demanded be in the TPP, one of which was that all countries become Life+70 countries, were no longer relevant. That (supported by the analysis showing a negative impact on the economy of +70) meant that NZ remains a +50 country.