Anyone else tired of romantic vampires in young adult fiction?

hollyahook · 11-14-2010, 03:31 PM

Every time I go to a bookstore, I notice that about 75% of the books on the Young Adult fantasy shelf are about romantic or "good" vampires. I like vampires, but I don't care for the craze about the "good" ones. I want my vampires to actually bite people and drink blood.

Anyone else tired of this craze?

GraceKrispy · 11-14-2010, 03:53 PM

I don't mind the "good" vampires in young adult fiction at all, but I'm just sick of everything being about vampires these days!

eta: I want to clarify, I actually still do really like reading vampire stories along with everything else I like to read. I just wish bookstores and the like would have a varied selection for display rather than 100 books on the same general topic--whatever it is that happens to be the trend at that time.

I just want a good story

Figlilly · 11-14-2010, 04:01 PM

I avoid those books like the plague but I'm guessing they sell extremely well. Who can blame authors for jumping on the bandwagon?

Ravensknight · 11-14-2010, 04:11 PM

Actually, it is only a surface representation. They sell, so they get "cover time" [or whatever you want to call it]. In reality, there are still a LOT more non-vamp ya books, just not as well publicized.

SensualPoet · 11-14-2010, 06:03 PM

Yes, it's tiring. It seems any title at the local ebook public library has something you don't want to sink your teeth into.

Worldwalker · 11-14-2010, 07:46 PM

Vampires are inert in the daytime.

Vampires do not sparkle.

Vampires drink blood.

Stories that disregard any of those three facts are bad.

Characters that disregard all of those three facts are Mary Sues.

Thank you, that will be all.

Seanette · 11-14-2010, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Worldwalker

Vampires are inert in the daytime.

Vampires do not sparkle.

Vampires drink blood.

Stories that disregard any of those three facts are bad.

Characters that disregard all of those three facts are Mary Sues.

Thank you, that will be all.

:

JeremyR · 11-14-2010, 08:01 PM

Vampires can walk around in daylight. See Carmilla. Sure, not as active as at night, but still not inert. Dracula, too could, he just seems to have lost most of his powers.

Anyway, I don't care, anything to get kids to read.

That said, it's pretty much spread to normal fantasy. Go to a bookstore, probably 60% of the SF/Fantasy section is some sort of urban fantasy (and 30% is military SF).

Then again, since the popularity of Wheel of Time, we've seen almost nothing but epic fantasy for the last 15 years before this.

hollyahook · 11-14-2010, 08:21 PM

There are young adult books that aren't the latest trend on the bookstore shelves, but I find that I have to spend several minutes to pick them out from the rows and rows of "lovey-dovey" vampire books. They're hard to find and frequently the bookstore only has one copy of each at a time, which makes buying books in a series kind of hard.

Avarwen · 11-14-2010, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Worldwalker

Vampires are inert in the daytime.

Vampires do not sparkle.

Vampires drink blood.

Stories that disregard any of those three facts are bad.

Characters that disregard all of those three facts are Mary Sues.

Thank you, that will be all.

That is a common misconception the idea of nocturnal vampires was started by Nosferatu. Also if you can give a good reason for vampires being daywalkers like drugs , a spell, special ,
blood it could work.

Agreed

There are three main types of vampires:
Blood drinkers
Physic Vampires who feed on energy
Vampires who use sex to feed
The last two aren't used very much because they are not as sexy as a blood drinker. (at least to some)

I've been a vampire fan since I was a kid and I can't stand the new EMO vampires. I don't mind good vampires but why are they always sissies with the personality of a doormat. Even some of the adult vampire books are annoying. I'm very picky what I read when it come to vampires.

sabredog · 11-14-2010, 10:59 PM

The twilight series encouraged my 16 yo language disabled daughter to read books even more than Harry Potter did. As the reading frenzy settled into a more steady pastime, Kelly has decided fantasy books are her "thing"

So I am not complaining about the Vampire addiction currently raging as it enabled my daughter to discover books and reading. She currently has 12 series "on watch" at the local bookstore.

My wife is a annoyed about "goody two shoe" vampire stories as well, but loves Anita Blake books.... I am not sure what to make of that.

C.I.Bond · 11-14-2010, 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avarwen

I've been a vampire fan since I was a kid and I can't stand the new EMO vampires. I don't mind good vampires but why are they always sissies with the personality of a doormat. Even some of the adult vampire books are annoying. I'm very picky what I read when it come to vampires.

Here Here!

I go so annoyed with the new wussy vamps that I to create my own brand, of course they don’t think of themselves as vampires since they are a mix of demonic blood and a fresh corpse. Demons had to do something when humanity was still crawling around in caves (that was before TV and internet porn). The ones in Seattle tend to think of themselves as “good” because they don’t actual drive humans insane they just take ones that have already reached that state and if they managed to keep them alive for a year they are recognized as Companions. The proper care and feeding of your potentially suicidal human is a huge topic in the Twice Damned community. I enjoyed mixing Demon culture in with the undead-human aspects to make “vampire-like” creatures that were violent, passionate, extremely possessive, completely unapologetic and hysterical.

I had so much fun creating this culture. Sorry, I’ll stop talking about my book now. That’s self-promotion and bad, bad. Um… to be fare I wasn’t writing YA either I don’t know how that would work at all. You would basically have to neuter the poor guys.

SensualPoet · 11-14-2010, 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Worldwalker

Vampires are inert in the daytime.

Vampires do not sparkle.

Vampires drink blood.

Honestly, it sounds like a congressman I saw on CSPAN recently ....

Worldwalker · 11-15-2010, 12:15 AM

Maybe some Twilight fan can explain this to me:

Why is a century-old vampire posing as a high school student, and why does he fall in love with a teenager? I can have a hard time relating to people who think we've always had cell phones. What would someone like that have in common with a guy who's not only older than cell phones but computers, movies, TV, radio, space travel, airplanes, comic books, T-shirts, women voting, integration, and paved roads? To put it in perspective, he's six years older than Robert A. Heinlein, who died at the age of 80 several years before Bella was born. When Edward was Bella's age, Isaac Asimov hadn't been born yet. This isn't romantic, it's creepy.

sabredog · 11-15-2010, 12:59 AM

Each to their own I guess.

As I said a couple of posts up. Twilight introduced my youngest daughter to the wonders of reading. That is nothing to be sneezed at, even if some of us find the books less than interesting.

BTW, paved roads have been around in some form or other for 6000 years or so. Asphalt surfaced roads around 140 years.

11-14-2010, 03:31 PM	#1
hollyahook Member Posts: 19 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Michigan Device: none	Anyone else tired of romantic vampires in young adult fiction? Every time I go to a bookstore, I notice that about 75% of the books on the Young Adult fantasy shelf are about romantic or "good" vampires. I like vampires, but I don't care for the craze about the "good" ones. I want my vampires to actually bite people and drink blood. Anyone else tired of this craze?

11-14-2010, 03:53 PM	#2
GraceKrispy It's Dr. Penguin now! Posts: 3,909 Karma: 4705733 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: (USA) Device: iPad mini, Samsung Note 3, Sony PRS-650 (rarely used now)	I don't mind the "good" vampires in young adult fiction at all, but I'm just sick of everything being about vampires these days! eta: I want to clarify, I actually still do really like reading vampire stories along with everything else I like to read. I just wish bookstores and the like would have a varied selection for display rather than 100 books on the same general topic--whatever it is that happens to be the trend at that time. I just want a good story Last edited by GraceKrispy; 11-14-2010 at 05:16 PM.

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Figlilly Zealot Posts: 122 Karma: 2514066 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Australia Device: Kindle Oasis 2&3, Paperwhites, Kindle Touch, Kobo Clara, IPad Air2	I avoid those books like the plague but I'm guessing they sell extremely well. Who can blame authors for jumping on the bandwagon?

11-14-2010, 04:11 PM	#4
Ravensknight Serpent Rider Posts: 1,123 Karma: 10219804 Join Date: Jun 2009 Device: Sony 350; Nook STR; Oasis	Actually, it is only a surface representation. They sell, so they get "cover time" [or whatever you want to call it]. In reality, there are still a LOT more non-vamp ya books, just not as well publicized.

11-14-2010, 06:03 PM	#5
SensualPoet Wizard Posts: 2,302 Karma: 2607151 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Toronto Device: Kobo Aura HD, Kindle Paperwhite, Asus ZenPad 3, Kobo Glo	Yes, it's tiring. It seems any title at the local ebook public library has something you don't want to sink your teeth into.

11-14-2010, 07:46 PM	#6
Worldwalker Curmudgeon Posts: 3,085 Karma: 722357 Join Date: Feb 2010 Device: PRS-505	Vampires are inert in the daytime. Vampires do not sparkle. Vampires drink blood. Stories that disregard any of those three facts are bad. Characters that disregard all of those three facts are Mary Sues. Thank you, that will be all.

11-14-2010, 08:01 PM	#8
JeremyR Guru Posts: 973 Karma: 2458402 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: St. Louis Device: Kindle Keyboard, Nook HD+	Vampires can walk around in daylight. See Carmilla. Sure, not as active as at night, but still not inert. Dracula, too could, he just seems to have lost most of his powers. Anyway, I don't care, anything to get kids to read. That said, it's pretty much spread to normal fantasy. Go to a bookstore, probably 60% of the SF/Fantasy section is some sort of urban fantasy (and 30% is military SF). Then again, since the popularity of Wheel of Time, we've seen almost nothing but epic fantasy for the last 15 years before this.

11-14-2010, 08:21 PM	#9
hollyahook Member Posts: 19 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Michigan Device: none	There are young adult books that aren't the latest trend on the bookstore shelves, but I find that I have to spend several minutes to pick them out from the rows and rows of "lovey-dovey" vampire books. They're hard to find and frequently the bookstore only has one copy of each at a time, which makes buying books in a series kind of hard.

11-14-2010, 10:59 PM	#11
sabredog Geographically Restricted Posts: 2,629 Karma: 14933353 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Perth, Australia Device: Sony PRS-T3, Kindle Voyage, iPad Air2, Nexus7v2	The twilight series encouraged my 16 yo language disabled daughter to read books even more than Harry Potter did. As the reading frenzy settled into a more steady pastime, Kelly has decided fantasy books are her "thing" So I am not complaining about the Vampire addiction currently raging as it enabled my daughter to discover books and reading. She currently has 12 series "on watch" at the local bookstore. My wife is a annoyed about "goody two shoe" vampire stories as well, but loves Anita Blake books.... I am not sure what to make of that.

11-15-2010, 12:15 AM	#14
Worldwalker Curmudgeon Posts: 3,085 Karma: 722357 Join Date: Feb 2010 Device: PRS-505	Maybe some Twilight fan can explain this to me: Why is a century-old vampire posing as a high school student, and why does he fall in love with a teenager? I can have a hard time relating to people who think we've always had cell phones. What would someone like that have in common with a guy who's not only older than cell phones but computers, movies, TV, radio, space travel, airplanes, comic books, T-shirts, women voting, integration, and paved roads? To put it in perspective, he's six years older than Robert A. Heinlein, who died at the age of 80 several years before Bella was born. When Edward was Bella's age, Isaac Asimov hadn't been born yet. This isn't romantic, it's creepy.

11-15-2010, 12:59 AM	#15
sabredog Geographically Restricted Posts: 2,629 Karma: 14933353 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Perth, Australia Device: Sony PRS-T3, Kindle Voyage, iPad Air2, Nexus7v2	Each to their own I guess. As I said a couple of posts up. Twilight introduced my youngest daughter to the wonders of reading. That is nothing to be sneezed at, even if some of us find the books less than interesting. BTW, paved roads have been around in some form or other for 6000 years or so. Asphalt surfaced roads around 140 years.

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