Why is the "ArialUnicodeMS" font embedded?

DSpider · 12-03-2011, 04:22 PM

I'm using Word 2010 SP1 & Adobe Acrobat X. I have tried searching for hidden characters may have used this font, like page breaks or paragraph ending marks, etc. Found some and I simply changed them to the book's regular font. But after saving the PDF and going to File - Properties - Fonts, it's STILL there.

Seriously, what gives? I'm pretty sure the .docx file doesn't reference this font anywhere yet it still gets embedded somehow.

Doitsu · 12-04-2011, 04:08 AM

My guess would be that your document contains an unused style definition that uses this font. ArialUnicodeMS is also often used as the default font in MS Words docs originally created with non-US Office versions.
Since .docx files are actually .zip files with a bunch of .xml files in them, you can rename a copy of your .docx file to .zip, unzip all files and then use a free text search tool, for example, Agent Ransack, to find out where this font is referenced in your .docx file.

DSpider · 12-05-2011, 06:16 AM

Yup. You were pretty spot on.

styles.xml
fontTable.xml
stylesWithEffects.xml

The "No Spacing" style was set to "Arial Unicode MS". I removed it because it wasn't used anywhere in the document. And I also edited the "Normal" style from "(Default) Arial Unicode MS" to "(Default) Times New Roman". It even brought the filesize down a little, about 50 KB or so (from 1.20 MB to 1.15 MB). Somehow the whole font was embedded. Apparently Acrobat doesn't subset it...

Hmmm, good to know. Thanks a lot!

12-03-2011, 04:22 PM	#1
DSpider Evangelist Posts: 450 Karma: 343115 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Romania Device: PW2 2014	Why is the "ArialUnicodeMS" font embedded? I'm using Word 2010 SP1 & Adobe Acrobat X. I have tried searching for hidden characters may have used this font, like page breaks or paragraph ending marks, etc. Found some and I simply changed them to the book's regular font. But after saving the PDF and going to File - Properties - Fonts, it's STILL there. Seriously, what gives? I'm pretty sure the .docx file doesn't reference this font anywhere yet it still gets embedded somehow. Last edited by DSpider; 12-12-2011 at 07:55 AM.

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12-04-2011, 04:08 AM	#2
Doitsu Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,583 Karma: 22735033 Join Date: Dec 2010 Device: Kindle PW2	My guess would be that your document contains an unused style definition that uses this font. ArialUnicodeMS is also often used as the default font in MS Words docs originally created with non-US Office versions. Since .docx files are actually .zip files with a bunch of .xml files in them, you can rename a copy of your .docx file to .zip, unzip all files and then use a free text search tool, for example, Agent Ransack, to find out where this font is referenced in your .docx file.

12-05-2011, 06:16 AM	#3
DSpider Evangelist Posts: 450 Karma: 343115 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Romania Device: PW2 2014	Yup. You were pretty spot on. styles.xml fontTable.xml stylesWithEffects.xml The "No Spacing" style was set to "Arial Unicode MS". I removed it because it wasn't used anywhere in the document. And I also edited the "Normal" style from "(Default) Arial Unicode MS" to "(Default) Times New Roman". It even brought the filesize down a little, about 50 KB or so (from 1.20 MB to 1.15 MB). Somehow the whole font was embedded. Apparently Acrobat doesn't subset it... Hmmm, good to know. Thanks a lot!