10-09-2011, 08:38 PM | #1 | |
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STUDY SHOWS: Ditching DRM could reduce piracy, prices
(SRC: http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/09/d...inconvenience/ )
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10-09-2011, 09:07 PM | #2 |
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This completely does not surprise me. DRM moves me to such gnashing of teeth I'm unwilling to buy DRM'ed materials. Look at music. They had to take DRM off eventually.
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10-09-2011, 10:55 PM | #3 |
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Also unsurprised. People simply aren't going to buy products that they aren't allowed to use in basic, reasonable ways. It's like buying a cell phone that makes calls, but only during the hours of 11am to 3pm Mon-Wed, won't save numbers, won't let you call anyone outside your network, and every now and then, they issue a complete recall of a model and staff of the company go door-to-door and break everyone's phones. And no, they won't replace it with something else should they break it. You have to buy a new one. And it's completely incompatible with anything that worked with your previous phone.
If most cell phones were like that, I'm sure there's be a large black market for cell phones. Obviously a lot of people wouldn't actually PAY MONEY to be treated that badly. This should shock no one. Even now (where cell phones are, of course, nothing close to that bad) there's still circumvention techniques for phones. Because in the technology age, telling people what to do with their own stuff just doesn't fly anymore. I get that the book world is getting scared, as the latest form to media to start feeling real pressure from the internet. But how many times do defensive industries have to try and fail with DRM before they learn? Customers have rights, too. And businesses will have to get used to the idea that in the digital world, you can't make people pay to be treated badly - there's a way around everything, your would-be customers will find it, and ultimately you'll just cost yourself money. Last edited by SmokeAndMirrors; 10-09-2011 at 11:02 PM. |
10-09-2011, 11:09 PM | #4 |
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I really don't think that no DRM would reduce piracy THAT much. If it's easy to get something for free, people are going to get it for free.
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10-09-2011, 11:56 PM | #5 | |
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it's easy to get things for free now but nobody is going bankrupt from it. ebook sales keep going up despite ebook piracy being mind-bendingly easy to do. video games have record year after record year despite being (i assume) easy to pirate. people still go to the movies, people still buy dvds, etc. these books/games/movies don't exist in a vaccuum, drm is cracked so easily that it may as well not even exist. there are ALWAYS going to be thieves. always. just as there are honest people who will always pay for things. personally i don't appreciate things i get for free. yes i've dabbled in "the 7 seas" but have since had a change of heart. i enjoy paying for the things i want because i end up appreciating them more and i've come to realize that i truly do respect the people behind the products i enjoy. Last edited by xg4bx; 10-09-2011 at 11:59 PM. |
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10-10-2011, 12:13 AM | #6 | |
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Eliminating casual piracy would be the big result of removing DRM universally. Readers wanting an ebook can be free to purchase full well knowing that if they change their ereader at some point in the future they can easily format change without having to buy the same book again. Removing geographic restrictions would be another BIG step in the right direction and that would have a much bigger impact on casual piracy. I doubt that piracy of music, movies, TV shows, software and ebooks will ever be eliminated, no matter how much is done to try and stop it. |
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10-10-2011, 12:23 AM | #7 |
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Publishers and Authors seem to equate breaking DRM with "theft" of their product.
Almost all of the breaking of ebook DRM is by those who have purchased the ebook, and just want to use it on the device/s of their choice and have a more secure book that will not be subject to obsolescence. DRM has nothing to do with "Pirating", popular books get Pirated before the ebook version is released. (In the case of Harry Potter, years before.) Removing the DRM from the ebooks that you buy, does not make you a thief, nor is there a loss for the author or publisher. Having DRM on an ebook, has no impact on the priates, at all. Luck; Ken |
10-10-2011, 12:32 AM | #8 |
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This is information the music industry already learned years ago. It's pretty much a "duh!" moment to realize that it applies equally well to ebooks and TV/movies.
Hopefully the DRM-free release of the Harry Potter books next year will be the catalyst needed to get the rest of the industry moving. |
10-10-2011, 12:35 AM | #9 |
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I'm happy to see that my gut reaction against DRM is getting some verification.
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10-10-2011, 01:05 AM | #10 | |
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I thought I'd have a read of the article.
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10-10-2011, 02:17 AM | #11 |
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Copy protect on digital. -O.K. --- ((Ken, there is your DRM hook)) Last edited by frahse; 10-10-2011 at 05:46 AM. |
10-10-2011, 02:25 AM | #12 |
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Interesting. Thanks for the link.
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10-10-2011, 03:12 AM | #13 | |
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As for the rest, it has nothing to do with DRM, other than the very bit at the end where you say you generally do whatever your publisher tells you to (Publisher says we'll use DRM: OK). |
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10-10-2011, 03:22 AM | #14 | |
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10-10-2011, 04:05 AM | #15 | |
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And affter DRM slapped you in the face a few times, you're more hesitant to buy. An other thing is the "You're not is the right country to buy this book". Oh, whatever. getTorrent(); |
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