Mainstream iRex 8.1-inch reader for 400$ (rumor) - Page 5

wallcraft · 08-07-2009, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaggy

iRex is not running the Mobipocket Reader. They are using a Mobipocket API library and writing their own application with it.

They certainly used the MobiPocket Java Reader on the iLiad, and my impression is that this is still the case on the DR1000S. I agree, though, that on the DR1000S they did a nice job of integrating the MOBI Reader and its dictionary function into their API. So on the DR1000S, but not the iLiad, the dictionaries can be used in PDFs and well as MOBIs.

Shaggy · 08-07-2009, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by wallcraft

They certainly used the MobiPocket Java Reader on the iLiad, and my impression is that this is still the case on the DR1000S.

It's not a Reader, it's a SDK (software development kit) from Mobipocket. iRex wrote the application (on both the iLiad and the DR1000), they just used an API library from Mobipocket.

Who are you? · 08-07-2009, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaggy

Where have you seen iRex say anything about the new model?

On a dutch technology news site where they contacted iRex regarding this new model.

Shaggy · 08-07-2009, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Who are you?

On a dutch technology news site where they contacted iRex regarding this new model.

Do you have a link?

Who are you? · 08-07-2009, 01:44 PM

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Shaggy · 08-07-2009, 01:47 PM

Is this it?

http://tweakers.net/nieuws/61710/ire...-e-reader.html

Not any more details (that's what I was hoping for), but yeah, they do say iRex confirmed that it won't be available in Europe.

brecklundin · 08-08-2009, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by pdurrant

An 8.1 diagonal 3:4 aspect ratio screen of 768x1024 is at 158dpi. The 6" eInk screens are 167dpi. The 5" eInk screens are 200dpi.

For a new 8.1 screen I'd be hoping for at least 960x1280 resolution - 198 dpi.

(I think eInk ought to be working towards 300dpi - 900x1200 on a 5" screen, perhaps 1440x1920 on an 8.1".)

The 300dpi would be GREAT. But there might be some pretty rough physical limitations imposed by the current eink design tech. It means more than just increasing the DPI by 150% from the current standard of about 200dpi...there needs to be space between the cells as well...plus the particles used inside each cell might be impossible to make smaller and still retain their physical integrity. We need the eng-in-ear folks to help us on this one.

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

if Sony can have a dictionary on the 600, why can't other devices that support ePub? And losing Mobi support is not a bad thing at all.

Agree 100%...

Sweetpea · 08-08-2009, 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaggy

Is this it?

http://tweakers.net/nieuws/61710/ire...-e-reader.html

Not any more details (that's what I was hoping for), but yeah, they do say iRex confirmed that it won't be available in Europe.

A Dutch company creating products that won't be even for sale in the Netherlands...

Yes, this world economy is really a world economy...

EowynCarter · 08-08-2009, 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaggy

Is this it?

http://tweakers.net/nieuws/61710/ire...-e-reader.html

Not any more details (that's what I was hoping for), but yeah, they do say iRex confirmed that it won't be available in Europe.

Fail !!
Guess I won't be buying it after all.

jessTay · 08-08-2009, 10:03 AM

wow if they aren't releasing it in Europe, I guess I can forget about Canada...
unless they are releasing it to "North America" not the "United States".

For once, I wish there was a quality ebook reader with wifi that you could get EVERYWHERE

ProDigit · 08-08-2009, 12:31 PM

I don't know if you ever seen on the 505 a black pixel next to a white one, next to a black, and so the whole screen full.
The smallest particle is hardly perceivable with the naked eye. I need a magnifying glass to see it's smallest shape of a black dot on the screen!

Don't tell me you are able to differentiate the pixels from 1 foot away from the device!
That'd mean you have eagle's eyes, not humans...

We are talking about the same resolution found on older computers with a 14" screen, only now condensed in a 6" screen!

I can not tell,but only guess that a dot (at the end of a line) exists out of about 10 black pixels (you can see very faintly under a magnifying glass it has a star shape).

I think the 166dpi resolution is pretty awesome!
Also, I think if you compare color print (paper) to the e-ink screens, you'll have to multiply the resolution of the ebook reader with 3x, in order to have the same resolution as the b&w e-ink. (which is slightly less than 500dpi)...

jboardman · 08-11-2009, 01:45 PM

I have a Kindle 1 which I gave to my wife when I bought an Iliad earlier this year. I LOVE the Iliad. I practice law and I use the Iliad to take notes in Court. I also transfer my oral arguments and closing statements in pdf format to the device and use it in Court. It is MUCH easier even than using a netbook. And no eyestrain!

I will put myself first in line for the new 8.1" design. I have stayed away from the DR1000 and the Kindle DX because they are just too big. But an 8.1" screen size coupled with the utility of the Iliad and the connectivity of the Kindle makes for a winner with me.

BRING IT ON!

Sweetpea · 08-11-2009, 03:23 PM

If it were to be available here, in the country where the creaters live, it would have been a great contender fo rmy money. But, alas, they don't plan to release it in their own home country...

Shaggy · 08-11-2009, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweetpea

If it were to be available here, in the country where the creaters live, it would have been a great contender fo rmy money. But, alas, they don't plan to release it in their own home country...

That does seem awfully strange.

Just remember that we're dealing with second hand information and rumors right now. It may be that there are two different versions of the DR800 being planned (or even just two different firmwares, similar to how they have the Chinese version of the iLiad). One for the US and one for Europe, and the quote was specifically about the former. Sometimes it's hard to tell what a company really meant, and what a reporter may have been confused about.

It would be out of character for iRex to release a US-only device. They haven't done that previously.

ericshliao · 08-12-2009, 07:35 AM

Some of my conjecture:
1. Why sold only in the U.S? Because the new model is tied with certain book seller, just like the Kindle series only available in the U.S. The question is: who will be the book seller? The seller must be very ambitious, very competitive. I will think iRex as an ODM of the new model. We can't buy it from iRex directly.
2. No shell access avaialbe. Since the new model is tied with certain book seller, they won't like users hacking the device to expand readable book foramt. So, shell access will not be provided as iLiad.
3. File fomat that is readable on the new model will be very limited. At least, pdf will not be excluded.

08-11-2009, 01:45 PM	#72
jboardman Zealot Posts: 118 Karma: 62 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: SW Michigan Device: kindle, sony PRS900, Irex Iliad	New IREX I have a Kindle 1 which I gave to my wife when I bought an Iliad earlier this year. I LOVE the Iliad. I practice law and I use the Iliad to take notes in Court. I also transfer my oral arguments and closing statements in pdf format to the device and use it in Court. It is MUCH easier even than using a netbook. And no eyestrain! I will put myself first in line for the new 8.1" design. I have stayed away from the DR1000 and the Kindle DX because they are just too big. But an 8.1" screen size coupled with the utility of the Iliad and the connectivity of the Kindle makes for a winner with me. BRING IT ON!

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Shaggy Wizard Posts: 4,293 Karma: 529619 Join Date: May 2007 Device: iRex iLiad, DR800SG	Is this it? http://tweakers.net/nieuws/61710/ire...-e-reader.html Not any more details (that's what I was hoping for), but yeah, they do say iRex confirmed that it won't be available in Europe.

08-08-2009, 10:03 AM	#70
jessTay Connoisseur Posts: 70 Karma: 28 Join Date: May 2009 Location: The Greater Toronto Area, ON, CANADA Device: Kindle 2! YAY	wow if they aren't releasing it in Europe, I guess I can forget about Canada... unless they are releasing it to "North America" not the "United States". For once, I wish there was a quality ebook reader with wifi that you could get EVERYWHERE

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ProDigit Karmaniac Posts: 2,553 Karma: 11499146 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Miami FL Device: PRS-505, Jetbook, + Mini, +Color, Astak Ez Reader Pro, PPW1, Aura H2O	I don't know if you ever seen on the 505 a black pixel next to a white one, next to a black, and so the whole screen full. The smallest particle is hardly perceivable with the naked eye. I need a magnifying glass to see it's smallest shape of a black dot on the screen! Don't tell me you are able to differentiate the pixels from 1 foot away from the device! That'd mean you have eagle's eyes, not humans... We are talking about the same resolution found on older computers with a 14" screen, only now condensed in a 6" screen! I can not tell,but only guess that a dot (at the end of a line) exists out of about 10 black pixels (you can see very faintly under a magnifying glass it has a star shape). I think the 166dpi resolution is pretty awesome! Also, I think if you compare color print (paper) to the e-ink screens, you'll have to multiply the resolution of the ebook reader with 3x, in order to have the same resolution as the b&w e-ink. (which is slightly less than 500dpi)...

08-11-2009, 03:23 PM	#73
Sweetpea Grand Sorcerer Posts: 9,707 Karma: 32763414 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Krewerd Device: Pocketbook Inkpad 4 Color; Samsung Galaxy Tab S6	If it were to be available here, in the country where the creaters live, it would have been a great contender fo rmy money. But, alas, they don't plan to release it in their own home country...

08-12-2009, 07:35 AM	#75
ericshliao Guru Posts: 976 Karma: 687 Join Date: Nov 2007 Device: Dell X51v; iLiad v2	Some of my conjecture: 1. Why sold only in the U.S? Because the new model is tied with certain book seller, just like the Kindle series only available in the U.S. The question is: who will be the book seller? The seller must be very ambitious, very competitive. I will think iRex as an ODM of the new model. We can't buy it from iRex directly. 2. No shell access avaialbe. Since the new model is tied with certain book seller, they won't like users hacking the device to expand readable book foramt. So, shell access will not be provided as iLiad. 3. File fomat that is readable on the new model will be very limited. At least, pdf will not be excluded.