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Old 04-15-2025, 08:28 PM   #31
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But all of the above is why I just alluded to other threads in my first post!

Jon is like a well meaning but misguided one man wrecking crew to many of our Sigil threads because he is stuck in the past about proper epub design and is relentless in arguing his points but never really listens to any of the counter-arguments.
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Old 04-17-2025, 01:06 PM   #32
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Please also note that only Latin-based writing systems commonly use italics for emphasis, citation, or contrast.
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Old 04-26-2025, 02:50 AM   #33
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Talk about shutting the barn door after the horse has left... but I'm wondering if the deprecation of the <i> and <b> elements has any practical consequences in ebook design?
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Both the i and b tags are valid in html5 and are no longer deprecated.
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Mostly it stems from the fact that <i> and <b> were deprecated in favor of <strong> and <em> so publishers either did one or the other. Later, mostly due to accessibility reasons, TPTB un-deprecated <i> and <b> and instead clarified the semantic difference and usage of one over the other.
Since this seems to be a really common misconception, I want to point out that <b> and <i> have never been deprecated in any released version of HTML or XHTML. <em> and <strong> were added in HTML 4 (as were similar semantic elements with default formatting such as <kbd>, <samp>, <var>, <cite>, and <dfn>), but <b> and <i> were still allowed because there are many cases where these don’t apply (ship names and so forth).

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Old 04-26-2025, 08:11 AM   #34
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There was quite the kerfuffle over <i> and <b> being presentational only, and html was supposed to be for semantic markup leaving the format to the CSS. I’m pretty sure it was in one of the draft HTML5 specs that i/b were deprecated. Of course there was a lot of wrangling over the html5 specs, among which the incorporation of accessibility markup played a part. The draft spec was out for quite awhile, so people got used to saying i/b were deprecated. The final HTML5 spec did not deprecate i/b but instead clarified the semantic difference between the tags.

Unfortunately that is as far as my memory goes, if anyone has a reference for which draft spec showed them as deprecated, that would be cool.

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