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NaNoWriMo gets AI sponsor
The article below is a tad biased, but it's got a honking huge point just the same.
NaNoWriMo was gutted to an extent when the forums shut down and it has a new sponsor this year, ProWritingAid, which offers an AI functionality. To what extent is AI just one limited tool in a varied kit box and to what extent is it the onlie begetter? Is it true that "not writing your novel with AI is ‘classist and ableist’ "? Has NaNoWriMo has run its course? https://pivot-to-ai.com/2024/09/02/n...6HhaEeTSQauGWA Last edited by issybird; 09-03-2024 at 11:20 AM. |
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Disabled authors have also been furious about this stance. They have been pointing out that they don't need AI to write. It's one thing to use AI for text-to-speech or for grammar checking, but this has been about GenAI. Anyway, I think NaNoWriMo truly fell apart last year -- when it was marked by a grooming scandal on the forums. Here is some coverage of it in a Medium article by a former Nano Municipal Liason. For some reason, most of the coverage of the grooming scandal was in forums or posts rather than in news articles. |
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Unfortunately, one must become a member of Medium to read the whole article.
Does anyone have a non-member link to a different article that tells a very complete story of the incident(s)? Last edited by Dr. Drib; 09-15-2024 at 10:56 AM. |
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Would there even be a point in participating in this thing now?
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That said, I don't know exactly what is allowed or disallowed with AI help in the contest, so I may be way off. I see NaNoWriMo has issued a note of "clarification" on their use of "classist and ableist." Quote:
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Thanks. I'm anxious to read this. |
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I was playing around on one of the AI sites, and out of curiosity, I wrote out a sentence for it to turn into a 500-word story. I had been watching news out of Ukraine, so I asked for a story about a man making his way home in a war-torn city while friend and foe battled in the skies with their fleets of drones. To say I was surprised would be an understatement when it produced a story titled "Echoes of Steel" (their title), which was all that and more. I'm not saying I couldn't have written it myself, but it would have taken me a couple of weeks. "What brave new world is this?" I muttered to myself.
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I forgot to say that about 15 years ago (from memory) I took part in NaNoWriMo for five consecutive years, meaning I wrote 250,000 words of fiction I would not have otherwise written. The most bizarre part is that when I ceased participating (because I felt I was no longer physically able to type 50,000 words in four weeks), I found that for a couple of years my mind would throw up possible plots and characters every October!
Without realizing it, I had trained my brain to prepare to write a story every November. http://www.mediafire.com/folder/yufb...c64xksl/shared |
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Actually it is, because that how LLM works. That's why they insist they have to be able to "so called train" it on copyright works inc pirated content. |
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I was going to say the same, all you are doing when using AI to write anything is telling it to scrape other websites and basically steal other peoples work. I really hate AI with a passion
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You make it sound as if the A.I. story took the phrase "he turned around" from an Asimov story, a comma from Heinlein and then the following "then he fled" from a Stephen King story. Every word, phrase and character copy/pasted from an existing work. It is ludicrous. Last edited by ZodWallop; 11-12-2024 at 11:41 AM. |
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